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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Toneman on March 14, 2012, 08:12:01 am
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I have an Ex 21 and the table, after about a month, has more scratches than I expected. I have used paste wax on it, pretty heavy. Any advice?
Tony,aka, toneman
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I feel your pain! I got a new Ex21 about a year ago and picked it up at a woodworking show where I demonstrated. Lots of people used it throughout the show and subsequent classes and it has some scratches on it. Dummy me tried to clean it with steel wool, never having a powder coated surface before and I made a boo-boo that looks worse than the original scratches. :( (I am, after all blonde!) I am also interested at seeing what others use on powder coated surfaces like this to minimize scratches. While they don't affect the performance, they don't really look great. Sometimes when scrolling, we just can't help getting the table scratched, I suppose.
Sheila :)
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I found this web site (NZ) about power coated surfaces, hope it helps a bit.
http://www.duluxpowdercoatings.co.nz/use_care_files/Use&CareBroc.pdf
***Merlin***
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Put a piece of formica with double stick tape on top of your table. I have done this for years.
Bob
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Some time ago I posted a note about wanting to protect the finish on my NEW EX21. Some people said not to worry as it will not be damaged through use. But I am seeing wear on the surface. One idea I had would be to buy a piece of magnetic strip wide enough to cover the entire top. You could even customize the hole for the blade to make it near O clearance. Has anyone tried this? Also the magnetic strip would eliminate the need to use double sided tape and can be removed easily and replaced as often as needed. It also has a finish that is fairly slippery and can be waxed.
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That sounds interesting!
My DeWalt is fine during the cooler months but in the heat of the summer while working in the garage I perspire (sweat) heavily and the moisture from my hands and wrists eats the paste wax off the top and I have to clean and re-wax frequently.
This sounds like a solution.
I have considered having the table Teflon coated but don't want to go thru the expense with the possibility of upgrading to a new saw in the not too distant future.
Let us know if you decide to try this and where you obtain the magnetic sheeting.
~~~GB~~~
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Thanks, Merlin. I wish they had those kits here. :( I like the idea Bob and Cdrover about the overlay. I love Rare Earth magnets. They are available at Lee Valley Tools and lots of other places (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=42348&cat=1,42363) (http://(http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=42348&cat=1,42363))
They are really small and thin and hold like the dickens. I may give that a try on mine. Only thing you have to be careful about not having the material too thick if you use reverse tooth blades (which I do a lot). The bottom teeth will not be able to come up enough to be effective if it is too thick.
Sheila :)
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Shiela, if you use flying dutchman ultra reverse then every 3rd tooth is reversed, not only do they cut nicely and leave smooth finish, it wouldnt matter if the material is slightly thicker.
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I have had my EX 21 for 2 years now and there is lots of scratches on the table but I don't worry about them as it does not affect the cutting in any way, I have never cleaned the table [ apart from dusting] or waxed it, it is as I received it
Jimbo
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I am using a DeWalt and I wax and buff about every two weeks. Lots of "marks" on the table, but not what I would call scratches. At least I can't get a fingernail to catch in the marks.
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one with the EX table scratching. I've only had my saw 4 months and a couple weeks ago scratches started while I was cutting. I checked the bottom of the board thinking something must be under it but it was clean. Scratches I can live with (happened with the Dewalt too) but now the finish is coming off in spots. Looks bad and you can feel the metal in the black areas. I called the dealer where I bought it and sent pics. Waiting to hear what they have to say and/or will do.
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i took a piece of formica & attached to my 788 with contac cement, sanded the edges to get rid
of rough spots. when i sweat on it, i just wipe it off. no worry about rust
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maritimer, Let us know what they say and do.
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Yes, my EX21 has started to develop scratches also. The way I look at it, they lend to the character of the saw.
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tvman44, I sure will. I talked to them today but the General rep. is on vacation (in the Bahamas...poor guy, I feel his pain! haha). Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what they say and I will keep you all posted.
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I would say the scratches on the Ex 21 are caused by the break out from the drilled holes, if this was sanded off it would fix the problem
Jimbo
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Hey GB, I was looking on ebay.co.uk and found that sheeting there, so they probably got it on your ebay too. I'm tempted to get some to try not so much for the scratches as there aren't any (yet lol) but it will make a good zero tolerance around the blade for cutting small/fine stuff
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Let us know if you decide to try this and where you obtain the magnetic sheeting.
~~~GB~~~
Most any sign shop will carry it for making magnetic signs. That's where I get mine to protect my truck door from mailbox doors! Enough to cover my door cost me around $35 if I remember right!
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I always sand the back of my piece after drilling the entry holes. Sorry Jimbo but I'm not sure that's what causes the scratches.
Mike
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Why at all do you care for the scratches?
It's a saw. It's meant to be used.
Scratches ennoble it to be used what it's made for.
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Why at all do you care for the scratches?
It's a saw. It's meant to be used.
Scratches ennoble it to be used what it's made for.
The Excalibur saws have a coating on the table similar to a Teflon coating. Unfortunately when it gets scratched it becomes unsightly. Most scroll saws are cast iorn or aluminum. If thy get scratched it's no big deal.
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Interesting topic:
After going through the replies, I tend to agree with Torsten
This is what I was thinking all along
If the scratches do not affect the outcome, why bother with it.
What do you guys/gals do with your other tools?
I'm sure they have nicks, dents and scratches on them too
Fab4
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My Ex 16 table is showing some wear and has a few scratches. In my opinion, it adds character to a fine machine. When I can, I keep my hand power tools, orbital sander, etc., in their original boxes. If they get a little banged up, it's from lots of use . Which is a good thing.