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Title: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: timotheous7 on February 01, 2012, 04:45:40 pm
I am relatively new to scrolling, and i wanted to post my most recent cut for 2 purposes one to have you critique me and help me with what i can do to be better and etc.. the other is to help me pick a price point for this item. It has become very popular and I would like to know a price before I sell or commit to sell any. I have been offered $45 and i dont want to rip people off or be ripping myself off. So I turn to you for advice... Please any advice you can give me in either the critique or the price point it will be gladly recieved... Also be gentle on the critique i am a newbie.. Jk all advice is a blessing for bettering myself as a fellow scroller..
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: scrollgirl on February 01, 2012, 04:59:50 pm
That looks really nice.  I love the contrast of the eagle and the back board.  It looks stunning. :)

Sheila
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: GrayBeard on February 01, 2012, 04:59:54 pm
I just gave one like that mounted on black felt to a High End silent auction. On the form they asked for a 'retail price'. I listed that one as $150! Mounted in a 10 X 13 store bought frame. I glued the felt to the backer of the frame and then glued the "Eagle" to the felt with Alene's Tacky Glue.

Yours looks great....The only comment I would make is that I prefer my backgrounds to be 'flat' not glossy.

See it here...http://tinyurl.com/83tezxo (http://.http://tinyurl.com/83tezxo)

~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: DWSudekum on February 01, 2012, 05:52:21 pm
Very nicely done great contrast.  Thanks for sharing it with us.


DW
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: TheMelster on February 01, 2012, 06:42:32 pm
I like it, thanx for showing
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: daliclimbs on February 01, 2012, 06:50:54 pm
Came out super! Tfs!
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Mainewoods on February 01, 2012, 07:19:15 pm
Nice cutting!  Nothing I can critique about that!
I do agree with GB about the glossy background.  A flat background would be a little less distracting.  I've used black poster board, flat black paint, but the nicest and I think blackest is the black felt because it gives you a really nice contrast to the cutting.  As for price, I have no clue as I have yet to sell anything, although I did get 2 orders for the moose ornament I made for Dan (dgman) this past Christmas.  No idea what I'm gonna charge for them!  ::)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Russ C on February 01, 2012, 07:19:49 pm
I think it looks awesome, great job!  :)
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: dgman on February 01, 2012, 07:40:25 pm
I think the cutting is great. I personally I like a wood backer board, but it is to shinny. I usually use semi gloss or even satin. I would not hesitate to charge $85 to $100.

Mainewoods, If I was pricing that wonderful Intarsia Moose ornament you made for me, I would price it at $15 to $20 depending on wood choice.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Gabby on February 02, 2012, 12:41:34 am
Ditto on the glossy finish.
Suggestion Play with some different frame colors and styles, on the computer the frame was nearly invisible and didn't give it definition, until I zoomed way in.
Just like everyone has belly buttons, they all have opinions! LOL
Just so you know, I liked it and thought the cutting was great!!!!
Gabby
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: wombatie on February 02, 2012, 12:52:18 am
The cutting is fantastic, you did a marvelous job, but I agree about the backing it should not be glossy. But we all have our own ideas on what we use as backers, I use thick black paper.

Marg
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: julief on February 02, 2012, 08:08:05 am
I agree, flat not glossy.  Your cutting looks great.  I always use a rigid backer.  Just my personal preference.  As far as pricing, I double the cost of my materials and then add a per hour amount.  I usually do $10.00 per hour it took me to cut it.  If my wood, frame etc cost me $10.00 and it took me 3 hours to complete the project, my price would be $40.00.  It also depends who I am selling to.  Friends usually pay less, I stand fast with my pricing at a show and galleries usually charge way more than I do, but that is usually a commissioned sale by percentage.  Never apologize for your price.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Tomsunnu on February 02, 2012, 08:19:51 am
Looks great! It certainly is a fantastic work:-)
Excellent! From one newbie to another.
Mahendra
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: newfie on February 02, 2012, 08:29:00 am
nice work thanks for sharing
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Post by: frankorona on February 02, 2012, 09:02:46 am
Awesome job, looks great
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: smitty0312 on February 02, 2012, 11:44:26 am
Looks very nice! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: timotheous7 on February 02, 2012, 12:28:27 pm
Thank you all for your kind words.   I am glad I am not the only one that likes it.  I am working on a flat black backer for the next ones.  I like the wood grain behind it. So I will try some other flat paint.   I love the felt idea and have used it on smaller projects. I was scared the wood wouldn't hold to the felt.  What is the best glue to use for that.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Keefie on February 02, 2012, 03:53:07 pm
Awsome piece of work there, but I have to agree with the others , not keen on the glossy background.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: GrayBeard on February 02, 2012, 04:55:54 pm
Any good wood glue should hold it in place for you...if you are in the US I recommend "Alene's Tacky Glue in the light brown bottle.

I first glue the felt to a 'backer board' with a good spray adhesive.
Just take a small brush and dab it on the back wherever you can, place the piece on the felt and weight it down with a couple heavy books for about 30 minutes and it will stay.

~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: SheGold on February 02, 2012, 05:41:11 pm
Beautiful work there... Sheila
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: J,Hamilton on February 02, 2012, 10:36:43 pm
I agree with everyone else. Great cutting, but a satin finish would be better. Great job overall and keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Judy Hunter on February 03, 2012, 01:26:17 pm
I think it is great and I like the wood grain but it might look nice if the grain ran diagonally so the "flow" would follow the wing artistically speaking  ;) If you haven't glued the piece down yet, you can still spray the backer with a matt or satin clear spray to tone it down a bit.  Just a humble old lady's opinion.
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: GrayBeard on February 03, 2012, 01:59:26 pm
Judy H. is NOT an ol' Lady but definitely an 'Artiste"!

And definitely true...the gloss detracts from the piece and is hard on the eyes if the light is directly on the piece.

I just read a comment in a woodworking magazine that "sometimes you have to waste a little wood to gain the desired effect!"
Just as in the 'kitchen' world, it is all about "presentation". If food Looks Good it usually tastes good also!
So, IMNSHO, using the same wood, stained darker and 'angled' for artistic presentation is a very good idea idea.

~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: Beginner version of double eagle
Post by: Al W on February 04, 2012, 09:32:30 pm
Sweet.   Nice job on the cutting and the finishing.