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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: wha on November 05, 2011, 06:10:06 pm
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I just bought a dewalt 735 and I really don't like it so i'll be taking it back.
I'm looking at getting the dewalt 734 or Delta 22-590. Any advice would be great.
Thanks.
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Hey Wha, I'm curious as to what you don't like about the 735. It is the highest rated portable planer out there.
I have the DeWalt 733 which is the predecessor of the 734. The difference is the 734 has three blades where the 733 only has two blades. I think the 734 has variable speed, The 733 dose not. I love my planner. It has been a work horse for close to ten years. I have not tried any other planer, but I would recommend the 734.
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I don't have a dust collection system so all the shavings blow all over the place.
I've planed two boards down to 3/16 and each time it chipped a piece off the end of the board
and jammed up the blower and I would have to take it apart to get the piece out that would not
go through the blower.
Any thoughts on the Delta?
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I have no experience with the Delta. How much wood are you taking off at a time? I take a very minimal amount at a time, about 1/32" or less at a time. Also what kind of wood are you trying to plane.? If it is highly figured, you will get the chipping.
As far as the wood chips getting all over the place, that will happen with most other planners if you are not using a dust collector. There is one out there that has a collection bag, but I can't remember who sells it.
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I take of 1/32. I'm using maple and birch. My old planer the shavings just fell to the floor, with the 735
it blows them all over the place.
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Take a look at this attachment for chip collector.
Gabby
http://www.dewalt.com/tools/portable-thickness-planer-attachments-dw7353.aspx
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The 735 has a built in blower for the exhaust, Can it be disconnected? If not, look into the attachment shown above. It really needs to be used with dust collection.
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I agree with Dan. The DeWalt planers are the best. I haven't had any problems with my 734. Most planers manufactured now are designed for a dust collection system. As far as chipping a piece off the end of the board that is either operator error or the wood stock you are using. I have only had it happen a couple of time in the last few years and each time it was the wood. 8)
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Just to throw an idea into the pot.
Would in most cases a sander not be more suitable / useful (something like the Sand Flee) ?
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Not really. While you can get a smooth surface you can not ensure that the whole surface is flat and square to the sides. A planer will do that job much better.
DW
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I have a 735 and I love it. I haven't seen the attachment in Gabby's link before, I might get me one. I plan to get a dust collector when I can afford it, but for now I just connected a piece of flexible dryer duct to it and I stick it out the door when I use it. Works pretty good. The built in exhaust fan is to assist the dust collector if you have one.
Kim
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Wife solved the problem, she told me she paid 800.00 for it so deal with it.
It turned out that the chip out at the end of the board is due to the board.
It also helped when I slowed it down once I hit 1/4" and only turn the handle
1/4 of a turn at a time. I'll have to look at getting the attachment Gabby
mentioned.
Thanks all.
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BOY!! Ya had me going there for a minute!! I have the DW 735 planer and LOVE it.
I grant that it is much nicer with a dust collector to get the chips but, De Walt does offer a catcher bag to go with it that fits over a trash can.
I bought a used Jet dust collector and it does make all the difference in the world. The first time I used mine, I almost drowned my son-in-law in chips. Then I got a length of hose and the collector bag which helped allot before I got a dust collector.
Don't even think about using a shop vac! You will clog up the vac hose so fast you can't believe it. A shop vac just can't keep up with the best bench planer on the market!
Rog
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Hi Wha, it could be the out feed rollers need checking if it is the end of the board that is chipping. Hope this helps.
Rob Roy.
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It is at the end of the board when it happens. I put 4 boards through today and it only happened to 1
of the boards. The board it happened to had a big knot at the end so I cut the chipped part of and finished planning the board with out it happening again.
Thanks for all the help.
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I have used a number of floor standing planers, and currently use a 15" powermatic with a spherical cutterhead. If I could make a suggestion, when you are running boards that thin through the planer they can lift off the bed once they have passed the feed roller causing snipe and/or the chipping you refer to. A simple old method of controlling it is to put a piece of similar thickness scrap alongside the board you are planning a few inches before the end of the board enters the planer. Also, if the board is at all long, use outfeed tables or rollers so the outfeed end of the board doesn't tend to drop and raise the part still under the cutters.
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I have used a number of floor standing planers, and currently use a 15" powermatic with a spherical cutterhead. If I could make a suggestion, when you are running boards that thin through the planer they can lift off the bed once they have passed the feed roller causing snipe and/or the chipping you refer to. A simple old method of controlling it is to put a piece of similar thickness scrap alongside the board you are planning a few inches before the end of the board enters the planer. Also, if the board is at all long, use outfeed tables or rollers so the outfeed end of the board doesn't tend to drop and raise the part still under the cutters.
Billthediver. Do you mean put a board through as well that is a few inches longer than the board youre planing so that you dont get snipe?.
Jim
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It doesn't have to be the length of the board you are planning, just long enough to put alongside the original board a few inches before the end goes through, and extending a few inches further. It stops the feed roller from bouncing down and helps fight the tendency for the board to lift up into the blades.
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I like to use an auxiliary planer bed with my lunchbox planer. Mine are sections of melamine covered particle board, shelf material. They have a smooth, durable surface and are just about the same width as the planer capacity. I like my planer bed to be long enough that the infeed & outfeed sections are as long as or longer than the stock I am planing. This provides good, level support of the stock as it passes the whole way through the planer and helps minimize snipe.
For the longest one, I have to put legs under the ends to support them, but most of the stuff I plane is less than 3' long, so I use one of the shorter ones. I keep them waxed, with a paste wax, so they are nice & smooth. The only drawback is that the scale on the depth gage will be off by the thickness of the auxiliary bed, but I always measure my stock with calipers anyway, so I don't count on the gage.
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I have used a number of floor standing planers, and currently use a 15" powermatic with a spherical cutterhead. If I could make a suggestion, when you are running boards that thin through the planer they can lift off the bed once they have passed the feed roller causing snipe and/or the chipping you refer to. A simple old method of controlling it is to put a piece of similar thickness scrap alongside the board you are planning a few inches before the end of the board enters the planer. Also, if the board is at all long, use outfeed tables or rollers so the outfeed end of the board doesn't tend to drop and raise the part still under the cutters.
Thanks for the info BilltheDiver I'll have to try that one.
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I gave it a go and it would work great until I would get below 1/4" and then it would start taking chunks out of the end of the board. Took it back and got a
General International 13'' helical head planer and it works great. :)
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I have a 13" Delta and the dust and chips used to to drive me nuts.
I got a cheap 1hp dust collector for just around $100.(Simmilar to the Grizzly 1hp) Put a drum (free) in between with a cyclone lid Lee Valley ($50) and live has been good. Wouldn't run my planer without it.
It is real easy to dump the drum and practically nothing hits the dust collector.
It made it so that the little chips didn't drop back on the board and cause little dimples.
Don