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General Category => Ask Steve a question. => Topic started by: GrayBeard on May 10, 2010, 06:38:12 pm
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Steve, do you think either or both of these would work in your wrist bracelet pattern?
Curious....
~~~GrayBeard~~~
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The clay is cheaper and quicker. You might have to keep a close eye on the bracelet while it is in the oven. It's kind of thin and might crack or split. The clay bakes at a low temp so it might be okay.
The inlace is more expensive and takes a lot longer but I think it looks better when finished.
I like both but for a bracelet I guess I would go with the inlace for a more professional look.
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I was thinking about the Inlace and will likely use that.
When baking cheesecake it is common to place a tray of water in the oven to infuse moisture and prevent the top of the cake from cracking.
WOW, a cooking tip in the Scroll saw Forum!
I wonder if that would help prevent wood from splitting?!?!?!?
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WOW, a cooking tip in the Scroll saw Forum!
I'm on the lookout for a 'cheap' toaster oven at yard sales.... one to use in the shop. The Mrs. looks at me funny when I keep sticking projects in the oven!
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If you want to go first class Hobby Lobby sells a small oven just for baking the clay. Probably nothing more than a glorified toaster oven as it's about the same size.
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Would it be possible to have a little more in depth conversation about clay? I have not heard or seen it used before for scrolling. I saw the video about the inlace and it intrigues me but seems rather expensive.
What is the polymer clay used for and where do you find it?
Does it come in different colors like modeling clay?
Does it shrink when baked?
Thanks for any hints and tips.
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I second what Dunk said. I'm going to try it out on a Rose pattern I found in one of Spielberg's books, and feel a little out of my league. So any help and suggestions would be great.
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You get it at the craft/hobby store. Michael's' has it for sure and I believe Steve mentioned Hobby Lobby. It comes in about every color, even metallics. I'm sure you could mix colors together for a new color or even for a sort of swirl effect. There are different kinds (I don't know how they compare in use) ranging in price from about $1.50 to $3.00 for a two ounce package. One package would make a LOT of keychain fobs.
The package has the instructions. Basically, you pull off a piece, knead it in your fingers to soften it and then mash it into the holes you've cut, being carefull to get it everywhere and overfilling to be safe. After that you stick it in a preheated oven at whatever temperature the package says and for as long as it says. I think mine was 250 degrees for 30 minutes. I put a small piece of foil on a cookie sheet and set it on there. Once it cools, you sand it down flush. After baking, I did take the piece of foil with my thingie off the cookie sheet to fully remove it from the heat of the pan.
Disclaimers: I've only done it once. I didn't glue the pieces together before baking it but someone else on the forum said it worked fine with Gorilla wood glue. When I sanded mine, I just used the belt that was already on the sander which was 80 grit. I think that was too coarse because my clay area has some divots which I suspect - but do not know for certain - resulted from my sanding. Next time I won't be so lazy and will use a finer grit.
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Becky,
Thank you so much for the clarification. I'm going to town (that is now 50 miles one way for me) This coming weekend and will stop by Michaels and see if I can find what I need to give it a go.
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I just made my first clay inlay keyring. Just out the oven about 30 minutes now. Looks nice when sanded, will post a pic later when I have completed it. As far as glueing the peaces before baking I just took a chance and glued them with Bison Universal glue and that help well.
David
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David,
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the pics.
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I have posted this before. If you use Water Putty mixed with craft paint, instead of water, you have unlimited color choices. It does not shrink and does not need to be baked.
Larry
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Larry, what brand of water putty do you use. I am going to try it.
Thanks Russ[C] :D
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Ummm, what is water putty? I've never heard of it before.
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Durham's Water Putty...
DURHAM'S ROCK HARD Water Putty? is a gypsum-based filler -- a powder -- that becomes very hard when mixed with water. It never shrinks and has great bonding strength. That's why so many people use DURHAM'S to fill holes and cracks in wood, plaster, furniture, stone, and concrete. Once DURHAM'S is set in place ... it stays in place.
Taken right from their website.
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DURHAM'S is to be mixed with water. If you add a great deal of powder or liquid paints, hardness and performance may be compromised. Complete coloring and staining precautions can be found under "How To Color Your Art Objects."
For more information write to: <info@waterputty.com>
~~~GrayBeard~~~
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Here's the promised photo. I made it for a friend of mine, who has just been chosen to join de Dutch paralympic Boccia team. I see him sunday so I hope he likes it.
David http://picasaweb.google.nl/108830755235538370820/2010#
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Dawie,
Nicely done.
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What Greybeard said. When I have mixed with paint, it has set very hard. Can be bought at hardwares and big box stores.
Larry
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Thank for the tip greybeard. I tried one of the mothers day charms with the clay, and it was hard to get the clay in to a larger area perfectly without any inclusions. I'll have to try with the putty.
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When I was i the home repair/handyman business I got on to the Durham's Wood Putty from a friend who was a carpet layer and tile setter. We used it for minor floor and counter leveling to get a smooth surface.
WARNING...about Durham's!
It sets up quickly so do not mix more than you can use in just a few minutes.
Don't use too much water or it will be weak and take a long time to 'set'.
If there are indentations left you can go back and re-fill later to smooth it out.
It is much LESS forgiving than 'spackle' or dry-wall compound.
Dries fairly quickly and hard as rock so mix in a paper or plastic 'throw-away' cup.
Sands just like wood.
~~~GrayBeard~~~
Great stuff for filling cracks, holes and for places where you have to later insert screws. Drill pilot hole just to fit the screw.
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I used the dough "Fimo" to the piece below that I cooked in a small oven to 130 ? C for 30 minutes. The dough "Fimo" has increased a little volume and wood (pine) 5 mm thick did not crack. After sanding, I stuck behind a 3 mm veneer of dark wood (ebony) on any responses and painted with lacquer boat transparent.
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Nice look!
Wow...EBONY!
Good Stuff!!!
~~~GrayBeard~~~