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General Category => The Coffee Shop => Topic started by: Russ C on August 02, 2011, 10:21:12 pm
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5000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your a$$es and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." When Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your a$$es, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land." Now the government has stolen your shovel, taxed your a$$es, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land to China! Thanks to our Government we are really doing great. ::) ::) ::)
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AMEN Russ We need to fire the lot of them I say.....
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OH BOY, don't get me started! >:(
It's time to take it back to the founders wise beginnings!
Gabby
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If it's only going to take a 12 person panel to decide the future of our country, why are we paying the other 523 ???
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That's exactly what I was thinking Marion. We elected all of them to do their job, and when they can't they just put it in the hands of a few and sit back and watch so they won't get the blame for the outcome. It's just got to be a joke the way they are running this country now days. I think Chachi has the right idea, fire all of them and start over.
Kim
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It would be laughable if it weren't so scary! And I really liked Marion's question. Why are we?
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Isn't this the best country in the world. We have a revolution every four years. We can change our whole goverment if we vote. So BE SURE YOU VOTE!!! I love my country, I love my flag, I just don't trust my goverment.
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IF you don't TRUST your government then make damn sure you don't let them take your guns!
~~~GB~~~
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This is so true GB....
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We have the same problems politicians are same all over the world, lying conniving Ba???ds they are the lowest, worse than car and insurance sales men
Jimbo
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I'm thinking of voting out everyone who refused to do any compromising, send an e-mail to them and say why I voted against them, then send an e-mail to the ones I vote for and tell them why I gave them the vote...the more I think about it...the more I doubt it will do any good...and that is why we are in the dilemma we're in??? they don't care what we say as long as they have one vote more than the next guy and we don't think our vote counts?? :'( :'( :'(
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You are soooooooooooooooooo right.
gene
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Yeah now they rae talking about delaying military retirementuntil 65. That is just awesome since I retire from the military in Dec after 20 years. Oh and by the way our retirement isnt that big infact my monthly check after taxes is gonna be about $1500. So they want to give me a 401k instead as I am walking out the door.
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Thanks for your service Chief! Sorry you are not appropriately rewarded after a long career.
GB, what do you mean. Of course you can trust the government. Just ask any Indian!(old quote)
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This makes me think we just might have a chance of taking control away from those Progresocialomunist (compound word) bastards. If more people are coming to their senses we have a chance in 2012.
Mr. Speaker don't let down your guard!
I try to keep my kids informed, because they are the ones who will really be the most effected by what our government is forcing through.
Next thing you know our soldiers will be forced to goose step like the rest of those communist countries. While every one else is in a bread and soup line!
Yes I'm one of those right wing radical wackos that says history does repeat itself unless we stay awake to what is taking place.
Off my soap box!
Gabby
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Sorry Chief, throw me off the blog but I served my 4 yrs. and have friends who retired after 20, I just do not think a 37 or 38 yr. old (should spend, possibly, 50 yrs.or more collecting a retirement check on the nations dime, no one is more patriotic than myself but when I was in I didn't like it and I still don't, 65 is high, I'd be inclined to agree with 55
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I have a slightly different view.
How many other jobs that pay the same wages as our armed forces, require putting your life on the line at a moments notice year after year.
Also the average life span isn't quite that long yet, rather than nearly 90 years it's more like 70 give or take. Depends on which life insurance company you're talking to.
Now if you want to save the taxpayers some BIG BUCKS make congress and the president take the same retirement as any E-6 after his or her 20 years. I think they should be payed a whole lot less as well. The founders were mainly given expense money though some didn't even get that early on, it was their DUTY! Now it's their career! Term limits should be in place on ALL elected positions. 2 terms you are done!
OH by the way nearly every government employee gets to retire after 20 years. Fire fighters, police, county , city, state and federal! While you are thinking about that look and see what the teachers and government employees unions are doing for their members. All on your dime. Get some fresh underwear ready!
The military is a drop in the bucket by comparison.
I don't know why anyone would throw you off the forum Yguy, you have as much business expressing your opinion as I or the next person do. Only insecure people would do something like that.
Your response didn't resort to name calling or any other unwelcome behavior.
My nickles worth.
Gabby
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Gabby, as usual you voiced your opinion, thanks, I know my opinion isn't popular, when I was in service it was suggested to us that we not wear our uniforms in public, never fatigues, and be ready for public criticism,(now rightfully so!!), our uniformed soldiers are getting some respect. I know the life expectancy...that was a "possibility" that I mentioned, we are in a financial crisis in this nation and one section to look at might be gov't pensions and another segment would be if you make 10 times the median income you should be taxed proportionately!! Believe it or not I'd like to consider myself a conservative.
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Remember what the old line says, opinions and a** holes everyones got one! ;D LOL
I'm curious when did you serve? I was in the 60's. Off base unless on Navy business you were in Dress uniform or civvies period.
I've been surprised at the wearing of BDU's nowadays! I don't think battle dress is appropriate for liberty or travel, nothing so sharp as a service "person" ;D in Dress Uniform. But I'm not in charge.
I may be misunderstanding what you are saying about criticism. I don't feel our troops should be criticized by the public for following their lawful orders! Respect for our veterans is a given!.
Crisis is right. All we have to do is look and see where the pork is, special funding to foreign nations many grants to dubious projects here in the states due to payment for favors rendered,, the list goes on........
These things add up to billions with a capitol B without any benefit to any middle or low class person with the exception of welfare for those who didn't earn it. Which is another subject by itself.
My income whether it's a dollar a day or ten thousand dollars a day is MINE I EARNED IT and I expect to be taxed accordingly. If the tax is 15% I would expect to pay that no matter how much I earned.
But to tax me more because of an arbitrary figure decided by some bureaucrat to be excessive for my needs is dead wrong. Who decides what the median income is? Are they corrupt, or honest, have the numbers been fiddled with? Do you trust your government not to cheat. NOT me!
In order to know if a politician is lying or not, see if his lips are moving!
As to whether or not you are a conservative, I don't really know, however some of what you are saying is echoing what I hear from the liberals. So I would maybe list you as a moderate with your ears open and I hope your mind as well.
Take the time to look where all this leads us to over time. 2076 will be the third centennial for this country will it be a place where you want your grand kids to be living. What kind of life will it be? I suspect if things continue as they are, it will be a life where every moment of every day will be under the watchful eye of someone who will be able to regulate their activity at all times. Think I'm crazy? There are video cameras going up everywhere, and the quality of images is getting better all the time, with super computers they will be able to identify you from photos in seconds. Oh Yguy you are supposed to be going to the dentist on your lunch break, what were you going into Joe's bar for?
I know this has gotten long so I'll stop with this. Be an inquiring mind, not someone who just accepts what the talking heads have to say as truth.
Oh and keep your hands off my wallet. LOL
Take care friend,
Gabby
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I served 68' to 72. Yes, class A's only in public, I always wore mine tho' there were official suggestions made about not wearing uniforms if not necessary.
Because of the war protesters, when I got back from VN, Jane Fonda met us at the gates to Travis AFB.
Back to my earlier comment, the problem for me is the unfunded programs like pensions, when police, fire or service people get a pay agreement the pension should be in the agreement and SET ASIDE so it isn't a growing bill. That's what happened to SS, soooo many added benefits that just became another tax for the country.
And now I'm off to the Midwest Scrollsaw Show in Richland Center, Wi, hope to see some of you there.
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I remember that saying Gabby. I think it went, opinons are like a$$holes, everyones got one, and everyone stinks. Some a whole lot more than others. ::) ::) ::)
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Yguy enjoy your scroll saw show, it's just a bit far for me to attend. LOL
I hope you have a great time!
Gabby