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Title: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: shutterbugdm on May 08, 2011, 03:16:09 pm
When I started using my new DW788, I was a bottom feeder as this is what you had to do with the Dremel. After reading several posts, I am now using the top-feeder method except when I using spiral blades (really small cuts) or less that a nr. 3 blade on wood more than 3/8 thickness.
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: GrayBeard on May 08, 2011, 04:25:44 pm
Feed from the top?
Feed from the bottom?

I feed the way it is most comfortable and efficient for ME. Every one has their methods and reasons and that makes sense to me....

Do what You feel is most comfortable and efficient for You....

~~~GR~~~
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: woodcutter on May 08, 2011, 04:31:58 pm
I've also started using the top feeding method since reading other posts and with my new EX it is a faster and easyer way for me.
Jim
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: Dav on May 08, 2011, 05:00:46 pm
I have always fed from the bottom ..but have tried top feeding and when I do the blade hits the bed and bends it
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: dgman on May 08, 2011, 05:08:30 pm
With practice it will become second nature to line up the blade with the hole in the table!
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: newfie on May 08, 2011, 08:54:03 pm
same here i find top feeding a lot easier then bottom feeding
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: ChuckD on May 09, 2011, 12:29:08 am
I prefer top feeding so much that I bought a P-20 so I could do it.  Now the P-20 won't hold the blades so I am back to bottom feeding with my Hegner.  Oh well, that's life..
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: Bill P on May 09, 2011, 07:54:04 am
I try to avoid becoming a bottom-feeder...I don't want to become an attorney.  :D

And, of course, I apologize to all attorneys on the forum for such a bad joke.

Bill
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: julief on May 09, 2011, 07:56:28 am
I do a combination of both.  If I have drilled a very small hole, I tend to bottom feed.  I try to drill 1/16" most of the time so I can top feed but sometimes it necessary to use a smaller bit.
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: Danny on May 09, 2011, 11:42:11 am
When you talk about feeding the blade down thru the top of the wood don't you have problems with connecting the bottom of the blade to its bracket?
I know I sure would.  I am referring to a Hegner.  Highly un-heard to me as the blades have a special holder that needs to be completely off the saw to secure.  Then they kind of snap back into place.  Hey Julie you have a Hegner and you say you top feed.  Can you tell me how you do it?  Anyway back to the topic.  I have always fed the blade thru the bottom of the wood.
                          Later....  Danny  :+}
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: dgman on May 09, 2011, 12:03:10 pm
Hey Danny, In order to top feed, you need a saw with a lifting top arm like an Excalibur, DeWalt and Delta P20. I think Hawk has one too, but not sure.
Julie uses an Excalibur. I have a DeWalt.
I too used to bottom feed when I had a Dremel. When I got my first DeWalt, top feeding became second nature to me in no time!
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: Danny on May 09, 2011, 12:08:58 pm
Thank you for the info. dgman....  Kind of figured some saws were set up to be able to attach the bottom blade with out lookin.  Cool  Seen Steve Good's video about his Dewalt and he made it look like a piece of cake attaching the bottom blade.  Wow!  Like is 2 seconds.  LOL 
     Must have the wrong gal in mind.  Oh yea I know now.  Mrsn is who I am thinking of.  Tks again....  Danny  :+}
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: Tim2beupinAz on May 09, 2011, 12:49:25 pm
I am a bottom feeder with a dewalt. I have not tried top feeding but after reading this I will try and see how it works. I can say bottom feeding takes a little more time to get it in the holes.
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: ChuckD on May 09, 2011, 05:12:29 pm
Thank you for the info. dgman....  Kind of figured some saws were set up to be able to attach the bottom blade with out lookin.  Cool  Seen Steve Good's video about his Dewalt and he made it look like a piece of cake attaching the bottom blade.  Wow!  Like is 2 seconds.  LOL 
     Must have the wrong gal in mind.  Oh yea I know now.  Mrsn is who I am thinking of.  Tks again....  Danny  :+}

I hope so, there is no way you can bottom feed with a Hegner.  After a while I get pretty fast in changing the blades in the holes, but nothing like top feeding.  But I am in no hurry.  And I don't bend over to look under the saw to change blades.
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: ShadowB6 on May 10, 2011, 10:42:44 am
I'm with Dav on this one. I tried a couple of times to top feed but either bent my blade or had a hard time lining the blade with the table hole. Eventually I guess I'll get the heck of it, so every once in a while I try it a few more times. I will admit though, I'm getting better at setting the blade at the bottom without looking anymore.

Mike
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: Tim2beupinAz on May 13, 2011, 08:00:59 am
Ok I tried the top feeding with my Dewalt and just didnt like it. Not sure if I need more practice or what. I didnt bend the or break any so that wasnt a problem. I think I just have gotton so used to bottom feeding Im used to it and can do it faster. Im sure I will try again and see. Its all about practice so we will see. 
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: dgman on May 13, 2011, 09:42:17 am
Like I always say, Do what works for you. I push top feeding on the DeWalt because it is designed for it. But if you prefer to bottom feed, then that is fine too!
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: GrayBeard on May 13, 2011, 12:01:26 pm
Just for grins I had my friend use my stopwatch and time my blade changes the other day...
16 movements to new locations, bottom feeding on DW 788...

Average time from stopping the saw to restarting...12 seconds!

Not bad for an old, arthritic bottom feeder with shoulder problems.

But I was pushing...generally I am not in that much of a hurry so don't really push the envelope or the process...

~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: top-vs-bottom feeders
Post by: dgman on May 13, 2011, 01:22:13 pm
When I first started I had a  Dremel saw that required adapters to mount plain end blades. To install a new blade you removed the adapters, placed them into a jig mounted on the top arm of the saw, install the blade into the adapters using an allen wrench then mount the whole assembly back into the saw. This took about two to three minuets. To change to a new hole took about one to two minutes each hole. So when I got the DeWalt it took a matter of minutes to figure out how to feed from the top. I can change holes in about five to ten seconds now!