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Title: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: Danny on March 10, 2011, 04:04:16 pm
I know you all say there is no Dumb question, but I am getting into a new phase of scroll projects.  Using 1/8" Baltic Birch Ply. 
     Is there a formula of which blade to use for how many is stacked?
My blade chart states to use a #5 or #6 (haven't even heard of a #6) for
1/2" wood.  I use FD blades and kind of want to stack 8 and the chart states to use a #7.  Wow!  My #7 is pretty aggressive.  Can't imagine cutting the tiny lil inside cuts with this.  Anyway I would just Love to hear all of your feelings.  Thanks in Advance....  Danny  :+}
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: yyyyyguy on March 10, 2011, 06:00:43 pm
I've cut up to 6 pieces of 1/8" with a #5R but on really intricate cuts the bottom piece or two look a bit sloppy.
Pete
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: mrsn on March 10, 2011, 06:13:46 pm
with a stack of 8 with 1/8" I would probably try a number 5 and change it often. If the pattern was simple a number 7 would be easier. Depending on the project I migt do two stacks of 4, to make it easier.
I don't follow any type of formula for picking a blade. I use the feeling it gives me. However, I bet 80% of the time I use a number 5 of some sort.
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: cherie on March 10, 2011, 06:28:09 pm
I do not stack cut, but I do use an Untra reverse #3 from Mike.  Takes the place of the Olsen #2 reverse I used to use.
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: dgman on March 10, 2011, 06:33:58 pm
Hey Danny, 8 layers of 1/8" makes 1". You can't make to intricate cuts in that thickness of wood. Not to mention Baltic birch is tough on blades anyways. So if I was doing a portrait with intricate cuts in it I would cut three or four stacked and use a FD UR 1 or 3 and FD NS 1 or 3 spiral blades.
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: Mainewoods on March 10, 2011, 09:06:04 pm
I gotta agree with Dan on this.  I've been using the FD-UR's quite a bit lately and am pretty happy with them, but I wouldn't try to stack 8 thick and cut anything very detailed. ;)
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: tux_linux on March 11, 2011, 03:32:41 am
yeah, 8 Layers is to much do saw at a time. A stacked set of woods is much harder than a single piece.
Split the pile, make it 4 layers at a time. That's tough enough, and you can go with the usual SR#5 or a SR#3 for the small bits. I have UR-blades too, but I didn't get into using them really (yet!).

regards
Torsten
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: Danny on March 11, 2011, 10:52:51 am
A Big Thank You to all that offered advice.  I successfully cut a ornament that had 21 inside cuts.  Took your advice with stacking only 4.  Experimented with 8 on scrap and Yep bottom layer was not to good.
And after my experments and your advice it is and will be the FD-UR #5 for all over-all cuts.  Tks again....  Danny  :+}
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: thumbs on March 11, 2011, 07:16:30 pm
Danny, not to sound like a smart a--, the best blade to use is a sharp one-- I am for ever using a blade too long  and all of a sudden I mess something up.. I keep telling myself to change more often but-- ------Richard aka thumbs
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: GrayBeard on March 11, 2011, 07:21:47 pm
WATCH where the blade interacts with the wood! When it starts to bow a little bit ...IT is time to CHANGE!

Catch myself doing it all the time..."Oh well just one more cut!" then I'll change it!

WRONG...Do It NOW, Dummy! it is getting dull and it is CHEAPER than a ruined job!
Especially true of 'spiral blades' and portraits! They dull fast when 'stack cutting'!!!!!!

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: cherie on March 12, 2011, 04:55:17 pm
YEAH... and never put on in backwards (does not work to well).
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: cutter1 on March 13, 2011, 10:29:56 pm
Wow, I just learned a lot. Thanks all. still getting blades from Home depot. This is a great place!!
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: cherie on March 14, 2011, 08:36:53 am
Cutter, just a thought...check out mikes work shop.  I was converted from olsen blade to flying duchmen and really love the way they cut.  http://www.mikesworkshop.com/ (http://www.mikesworkshop.com/)
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: Kepy on March 14, 2011, 09:06:22 am
Danny, I have done a lot of production cutting (1000 pieces) and have found that a stack of 4 or 5 of 1/8" is the most efficient.  I prefer 4.  Cutting more than that slows you down enough that you can get as many done with shorter stacks in the same amount of time and use fewer blades.  My rule of thumb when stacking is no more than 3/4" total.
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: cameronj on March 14, 2011, 11:10:01 am
I agree with Kepy...no more than 5 pieces of 1/8 bb in a stack.  There is too much damage and frustration.
Jim
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: ChuckD on March 14, 2011, 03:32:13 pm
I agree with most of the comments.  You will save time is you stack cut 4 instead of 8.  However I do use #1 UR, a lot and even the#1 new spirals from Mike.  Less fuzzies and sanding.
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: bluesuede on March 14, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
Max 4 for me, i find that any more than that and you end up with wasted wood on the bottom and where as I am kinda cheap...
Bruce
Title: Re: The Best Blade to Use....
Post by: GrayBeard on March 14, 2011, 08:40:48 pm
To sum up the whole discussion....

1. Don't try to cut to large a stack of wood especially with 'spiral' blades.

2. The Best blade to cut ANYTHING, wood, meat, twine, hide, whatever is a SHARP blade!
[this bit of advice comes from one who has been a meatcutter for many years and a chef for almost as many]

~~~GB~~~