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General Category => Ask Steve a question. => Topic started by: CNLNC on March 04, 2011, 04:34:56 pm
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Hey Steve,
First of all, thanks for the great blog site and forum. It has definetly helped me learn and enjoy my new hobby of scroll work. Now to the question (request).
I've watched most of your videos, and unless I missed it, I think I have a request that would be of great help to people who are new to this. Can you show a video of you (or another experienced scroller) cutting some detailed fretwork from start to finish (time permitting) without pausing or forwarding the recording. The benefit would be to see the actual speed of your cuts in detailed work, technique, etc.
The narrative could describe blade selection, blade speed, etc. and how it is used when cutting a deteiled fret piece or even a detailed portrait.
Just an idea. Thanks again for the great sites.
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I might be able to do a short segment of a detailed fretwork cut but there is a ten minute limit on the Youtube videos. I can break them up into part 1, part 2 etc but from experience the part 2 and forward receive very few views. Most people will watch part one then move on. For example part one of my video on finishing scroll saw projects I had 48,314 views. Part two received 8,262 views. That's why almost all of my recent videos are limited to less than 10 minutes. Even if your audience is interested in what you are showing you have to have the type of personality that can keep them wanting to watch more. Unfortunately even my mom says I'm an old fuddy duddy. I have enough information to hold viewers attention for 5 to 10 minutes but not the personality for 30 minutes. People fall asleep:)
I like the idea though so maybe I can try to work on something.
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Thanks Steve,
I think I, among others, would benefit at watching an experienced scroller to some detailed cutting for an extended period. Even if it is only 10 minutes, it would be a benefit.
By the way, I find your videos very entertaining and educating, as I am sure the rest of the viewers do. Whether its part 1, 2 or 102. i'm watching. ;D
Thanks again
CNLNC
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Even if your audience is interested in what you are showing you have to have the type of personality that can keep them wanting to watch more. Unfortunately even my mom says I'm an old fuddy duddy. I have enough information to hold viewers attention for 5 to 10 minutes but not the personality for 30 minutes. People fall asleep:)
Maybe we can get Gabby to do a voice over! He seems to have a lot of personality! :D
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Maybe we can get Gabby to do a voice over! He seems to have a lot of personality!
Oh my, LMAO ;D ;D ;D
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Maybe we can get Gabby to do a voice over! He seems to have a lot of personality!
Oh my, LMAO ;D ;D ;D
Me too Marion. :D :D :D
Gabby
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I was working on a project this afternoon when I had a thought, "my tri-pod would probably sit on the steps behind my saw...I could do a video of this project for that guy on the forum" (no offense to CNLNC, "that guy" is meant nicely)
So I dug around for my tri-pod and camera and got it set up. I then cut out the project. My camera battery died after 35 minutes of filming and I didn't realize it until the end. So you will miss the first couple of cuts and the last couple, they are pretty much the same as the rest, you aren't missing much. I had to split the video into 3 parts to be posted on YouTube. I didn't do any talking, and the radio wasn't on so there is no singing, it is just saw making noise. I thought about doing some kind of voice over, but didn't. Maybe next time. . . .
The resulting video is probably the most boring video on all of YouTube. (I am the star and I fast forwarded through most of it.)
But at least I made it, and if I make any more videos they will be better simply because they can't get worse ;)
I don't claim to be the best, or know it all, so if you do things differently that?s fine. Do what works for you.
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mupT65GmhLc
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q63EVNZjErU
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSt-ULE1bWM
The pattern that I am cutting comes from the book ?simply wood? by Roshaan Ganief. It is a pretty interesting book, different types and styles of projects then are in a lot of the other scroll saw books that I have. The layered butterfly that I posted in the brag section a while back also came from the book.
I cut the project using my Hegner scroll saw and a number 5 skip tooth blade. It is a stack of 2 pieces of 1/8? Baltic Birch Plywood. To finish the project I will stain the pieces, and glue them to another piece of ply, and spray lacquer.
Let me know if you have any questions
Katie
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Katie...AWESOME!!!!!!!! ;D
I know somw people might think its like watching paint dry, but not me. That is exactly what I was looking for. I only have watched the first 5 minutes of video 1, and already noticed you make your turns alot faster than I do, or can.
Video 2 would not open, it said it was being processed.
I am definetly going to watch it start to finish and I'm sure I will learn something from watching it.
Thank you very much for making the effort to make the video. I am sure alot of new scrollers will benefit from watching it.
The only suggestion/request for the next one is if the shot could be tighter on the cuts being made. And maybe a more overhead angle.
Outstanding job!!
Thanks,
Claudio ("that guy")
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I figured out what is wrong with video 2. my program didn't save the split that i made. I'll fix that and get it uploaded again.
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That is very nice!
Wish I had seen something like this video when I first started!
Comment: First Rule for working with tools in my shop...NO JEWELRY.
~~~GrayBeard~~~
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I think I fixed the links in m earlier post.
GB- I wondered if anyone would comment on my rings. Depending on what I am doing I leave them on. Welding and Auto repair, they are always off. Most of the time when scrolling I do leave them on.
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CNLNC...Have you seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goA0hX4KNjM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goA0hX4KNjM&feature=related)
Part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm3QT7SHIJc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm3QT7SHIJc&feature=related)
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Katie,
Were you using a spiral blade or some other type?
Inquiring mind want to know, and so do I.
LOL
Gabby
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Gabby. The blade is not spiral. It is an Olsen number 5 skip tooth blade.
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@Dunk...Yes, I do remember watching those videos when I first discovered Steve's videos. Steve does a great job with his videos, and explaining things start to finish as he does in the videos you are talking about. The only thing was there is only about 45 seconds of actual cutting in the video. That is why I requested a video of an experienced scroller cutting for an extended time. I thought I, as well as others, could learn alot by watching.
Thanks.
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Mrsn, I've watched all 3 and again, thanks.
Here are some questions, and the answers are probably "personal preference and experience", but I thought I would ask anyway.
1. Why are you using a skip tooth blade?
2. How often do you change blades during a project, or do you use it until it breaks. (Looks like you only had to use 2 blades for this project)
3. When you tension your blade, is it by feel, or experience? (I am not familiar with your brand of saw)
Thanks again for the effort and information ;D
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Katie...Hey GO BADGERS...Pete ;D
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Hi Mrsn,watched all 3 video's,thanks for your time doing this.regards paul
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CNLNC -
the answers are a bit of personal preference, but I'll try to answer.
I used a skip tooth blade, because it was handy. I like them because they cut a little quicker. I prefer a number 5 blade when ever possible (my lucky number is 5 for unrelated reasons). I use Olsen blades because I can get them locally at Menards, and my mother in law loves buying blades for holidays.
I use a blade until I notice it is dull. I used 2 blades for this project. I will usually get 15 or 20 minuets of cutting out of a blade. The first blade I changed actually came loose of the lower clamp. It is kind of a pain to put blades in so I decided to change it while it was out.
With the hegner saw, you can feel the tension in the screw as you turn it. It gets noticeably harder to turn as it gets tight. When I use my hitachi, it is more of an experience thing. When I started I would tension and re-tension the blade several time for each cut I tried to make.
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Gabby. The blade is not spiral. It is an Olsen number 5 skip tooth blade.
Thank you my dear.
Gabby
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Thanks Mrsn.
Looking forward to the next video series...
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Hello Mrsn. Loved watching your video's very much even tho I have been scrolling for many years. My interest is since we both own a Hegner I was wandering why you haven't purchased the quick blade change knob that takes the place of your Shinny fine grooved knob. I have found that the newer knob is really fast as compared to the original. Second observation is why you reach all the way in back and check the tension on every cut?
I install the blade in the upper blade holder the exact same way every time and I only check the tension one time. Was just wondering about whether I should modify my procedures or not. Let me know.
Just Lil Ole Me.... Danny :+}
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Danny-
I got the shinny knob to replace the clamp with the allen screw. I thought it was the quick change thing.
I check the tension as a "bad habit" from using my Hitachi. It doesn't change much at all on the Hegner, but I can't stop checking.
I don't think you need to change, as long as it is working for you ;)
MrsN
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I have a extra Quick Blade Change Knob given to me by my Lil Bro when he gave me the Hegner. Didn't realize he sent it until I ordered a new one. Want it? Think u know I owned a 18 inch Hatichi (sp) and Now I Know where you got the tensioning habit. Oh I can really remember them years!
I wud really say that my method of scrolling to me is where I shall keep it.
Later my Good Friend.... Danny :+}
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I like watching steve videos when I can't sleep. after about 5 videos or so then I get kind of sleepy LOL.............................................................
:D ;D
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I own a Hegner also. When you say "Quick Change Knob" are you taking about the one at Mike's Workshop?
I don't own one and wondering how they work.
Chris
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Chris, The picture of the quick change knob you have in your post is the best one available, I have four of them which i use all the time and wouldn't be without them. They make all the difference in the world when doing fret work.