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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: northie66 on September 04, 2010, 06:55:06 pm

Title: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 04, 2010, 06:55:06 pm

If I see a picture of something on the web... just from google images... and I recreate it on my own... should I not post a picture of it?

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: Russ C on September 04, 2010, 08:58:26 pm

If it is from a copyrighted picture, then No. You should not post it here. You can make a creation from a copyrighted picture for your own use. You just should not sell it.  8)

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 04, 2010, 09:05:49 pm

It's not from a picture... it's from an actual item.  I saw a picture of the actual item, and recreated it.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: kp91 on September 04, 2010, 10:02:06 pm

Is it an exact copy, or did you use it as the basis for a design of your own?

If it is unique, then it's generally not a problem.  If it's a direct knock off, than that could be a problem.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: Rightarm on September 05, 2010, 01:05:20 am

    What ever happened to Freedom of Speech. The right to express yourself. To many laws. Dave >:(

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: Russ C on September 05, 2010, 03:35:23 am

Sorry Janet. I was thinking of the pattern. If your going to post a picture of the finished project that you recreated it on your own I don't think that would be a problem.  8)

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 05, 2010, 07:56:54 am

I agree Rightarm... and with so much info and pictures available to you on the internet, it's impossible to tell what's copyright and what isn't.  I don't want to offend anyone but I think what I'm making is cute so I want to share it when I'm done.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: ChaplainRon on September 05, 2010, 08:33:03 am

Here is how I look at it. If it says do not copy then I don't use it. If not I might and give credit where due.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: julief on September 05, 2010, 08:34:57 am

I agree with Ron.  If it is in the public domain and you are making a version of it - why not?

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: GrayBeard on September 05, 2010, 08:38:16 am

YOU made it...It is yours to show off however you wish.

I haven't seen anything about any 'scroller' getting sued for posting a picture of a portrait of Elvis or Dean Martin or John Wayne, etc.
That "Rascals" logo I did made them very happy and I haven't been sued either.

~~~GrayBeard~~~

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: ChaplainRon on September 05, 2010, 08:52:11 am

You will only be sued when it will be financially profitable for them. From what I have seen most scrollers make enough to buy supplies and perhaps dinner. I am sure there are a few racking in the money. Sure wish they would publish their business plan.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: Russ C on September 05, 2010, 10:26:43 am

Everyone has to understand also that not only could you get in trouble with copyright laws but Steve and the forum could suffer for allowing the posts. I have had friends get a cease and desist notice within 48 hrs of a post. Trust me, I could care less if someone does make something from a copyrighted picture etc. for there own use.

You just have to be careful about posting it.

It is just a matter of being safe not sorry and not involving others.  8)

 

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: cherie on September 05, 2010, 10:44:25 am

Hey Ed,
Not to sound like a smarty pants or anything, but the folks that you listed, are they not dead?  LOL.  (sorry had to say it.)

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: GrayBeard on September 05, 2010, 11:03:30 am

TRUE Cherie...

BUT!!!
The "estates" of entertainers and public figures control all the copyrights to their likenesses and works!

Start selling too many Elvis portraits and you will draw the attention of the "estate"'s legal representatives in a big hurry!

I almost got into trouble for using a Snoopy likeness on a flyer I once printed for my printing business.
Someone sent one to the Charles Schultz estate and I received a "Cease and Desist" letter from a big law firm in California!

Keep is small and local and likely you will never hear from the 'vultures' but get a bit bigger and they want their pound of flesh!

~~~GB~~~

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: dunk on September 06, 2010, 11:02:30 am

Janet,
I for  am also looking forward to viewing your creation.  I'd not be too concerned about copyright on this one, I would not try and sell a pattern of it though...<wink>

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 06, 2010, 01:47:56 pm

Wait till you all see this stupid thing... you'll be like "All this for THAT?!"  hahaha!

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: dgman on September 06, 2010, 07:22:44 pm

You've got my interest up, Can't wait to see it !

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 06, 2010, 07:58:21 pm

I glued it all together and the dang thing is leaning forward!  I guess I gotta make a base.  It's all painted but it's not clear coated yet.  I dunno if I want to waste the spray on the dang thing.  That's what I get for copying.  ha!

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 06, 2010, 08:13:51 pm

Ok... here goes... here's my copied creation.  You can't really tell it's leaning forward a bit... and I didn't clear coat it yet... not sure if I'm going to.

I don't think I like the red feet either.  Snowman don't have feet.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: dgman on September 06, 2010, 08:27:17 pm

Well I think it's cute! ;) It should look nice on somebody's mantel for the holidays!

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: Marcellarius on September 07, 2010, 03:49:21 am

very nice snowman Janet.
be careful, most snowman who lean forward are melting. keep some towels by hand :D
i think the red feet are funny.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: ChaplainRon on September 07, 2010, 04:35:46 am

Love it. How tall is it?

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: julief on September 07, 2010, 06:38:12 am

I love it!  I think I'll make a version of it.  My daughter-in-law collects snowmen.

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: Russ C on September 07, 2010, 06:39:13 am

Awesome job. I really like it. Thanks for posting your work.  8)

Title: Re: Post a pic or not?
Post by: northie66 on September 07, 2010, 07:44:08 am

It's about 8 inches tall.