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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: northie66 on August 26, 2010, 08:26:29 pm
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Can u use a dremel as a router? Is so please explain. Thanks!
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Janet, Dremel sells a plunge router attachment for the tool and router bits. I bought the attachment to use to drill holes on patterns where my drill press didn't have the depth to reach. I read the idea on another forum and it was a solution to a problem for me. Dremel does not recommend using it but the fellow I got the idea from has been doing it for years with no problem, just have to be careful. I plan to buy some of the router bits, but haven't as yet.
Gary
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Janet, Dremel sells router bits for its tool and there are other company's that carry them also. My Dremel kit came with a router base for the tool but no bits. Imagine that,.. I had to buy them separately. 8)
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I also use the dremel plunge router, primarily for drilling holes in the scroll patterns. I have only used it a couple times as a router. I am going to purchase the keyhole bit to make hanger holes on the back of my projects - both scroll and intarsia. Right now I use a keyhole bit in my trim router, but the holes is normally larger than I like.
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I love my Dremel and have the Routerfoot(I think you call the add on part) with several bits, I love it works nice to make edges along smaller pieces, like eclipse I want to buy the keyhole bit for the same use. My Dremel lives on the selve just next to my saw within easy reach as I find new uses for it everyday.
David.
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we have a router table for the dremel works prety good for edgeing with practice. also have the plunge base for drilling.
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I have both the plunge router and router table attachments. Both serve their purpose but the Dremel 400 does not fit well. The 300 does just fine. I have used both for decorative edges and slots for small pieces. I have also used it for drilling holes in places that I cannot use my drill press.
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I've been kicking around the same idea. Our local Menards carrys everything I'd need to make my Dremel a router. Dave 8)
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For drilling holes the drill press can't, I use a regular 3/8" drill. 8)
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Is this how you all use the dremel router?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjCUHcUZPCg&p=6461C1271F1AF4D4&index=24&playnext=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjCUHcUZPCg&p=6461C1271F1AF4D4&index=24&playnext=2)
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Janet, that is the plunge router attachment for the Dremel. You can use it with bits for decorative edges or for drilling holes in the scroll patterns. 8)
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Yup, that's it. I use the little dremel table more than the router base. I mounted it to a 2 x 4 and clamp it to my work table when I need it. Stick it back up on the shelf - out of the way when I don't need it. Either way, both do a pretty good job on small projects.
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I did not know they made the dremel table. Might have to buy one. I learn something new all the time from this forum. :D
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I made several boxes with a slide in lid a while back. That little table worked like a champ to cut the slots in the box sides to slide the lid into.
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That's it Janet. Just that I normally fixate the piece I am working on, it tends to slide otherwise. I to should look into the tableside of things.
David
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I'm still confused about it. Do I need the router attachment, the dremel table, or both?
And for that matter, should I use the dremel as a router or would it be better or more economical to buy a router?
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I'd like to read some more info too. That little plastic hold down base didn't look all that effective. You could see the wood moving around which could be what Dawie was mentioning.
Also, I would like to ask, what is the difference between a router and a trim router (besides the cost)?
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Janet i think it depends on what you want to use the router for wether you would want the attachment or the table. The attachment works great for small things(never use that plastic inside thingy shown on the video) for making nice edges I use it around name plaques etc. I think the table would be handy like mentioned for making slits to make sliding tops for boxes, as making long slits free hand can be tricky. Janet a regular router is great for bigger things, but for delicate and small I find the dremel a fantastic asset. cccccccccccccc 23 . (OEPS CAT ON KEYBOARD)
He wants attentio n the catman that is.
david
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Janet, It just depends on how you are going to use them. The plunge router attachment decorative edges or for drilling holes in the scroll patterns. The table can be used for decorative edges also and for rabbiting (making slots). If you could afford it both would be nice. If I had to make a choice it would be the plunge router attachment. 8)
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Becky, A stationary or fixed base router is are the standard router most people use. The can be hand held or mounted under a router table.
A plunge router is used for designs that require the router to begin its cut in the middle of a board rather than on the edge.
A trim router are lighter in weight, less horse power and are used to trim off excess laminates, paneling etc. There base can have a fixed edge for trimming that cannot be removed. 8)
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The problem with a full sized or even a trim router, is the size and weight. It is very difficult to route a decorative edge on small items. Even if you are using 1/4 shank bits, they are often too large for 1/4" and 1/2" stock. Forget about anything smaller. I don't use that plastic insert either. I believe it is a safety thing. I'd have to pull out the instructions. I won't use my big router table for these tiny pieces either - I like my fingers too much.
The piece moving around, as shown on the video, is pretty easy to remedy. I use thick, woven foam shelf liners. That usually keeps them in place. On bigger pieces that I am using a bigger router on, I use Bench Cookies to elevate it and keep it in place.
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Janet
I made this mini router table for my rotery tool several years ago and use it all the time.
http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/routing/mini-router-table/ (http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/routing/mini-router-table/)
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That is a great find there Paw Paw Ray . Thanks. I will build that this week. Saves me from spending money on a commercial brand. :D
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That's great, paw paw ray. That one looks almost exactly like the dremel except for the fence and the little safety glass over the bit.
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Thanks for sharing that, Paw Paw Ray. Solves a problem for me.
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Thanks for the explanation, Russ. Also thanks to Paw Paw Ray for that link. I printed the instructions and put them in a safe place. I don't have a compelling need for a router but I suppose I might one of these days. All I'd need to do now is build the thing and get one of the Dremel router bits and I'd be ready to go, right?
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I noticed on the "Quick Start" booklet that came with my Dremel that you can call them for a free DVD. I called and they told me it showed some projects and "How-To's", etc for the units and they'd be glad to send it to me. Takes 2 - 3 weeks. If anyone else is interested, the number is 800-437-3635. You don't have to own a Dremel to get the DVD.
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I just picked up a Dremel 398 complete! $25 on Craigslist!
Looks and runs like it has never been used. Original owner told me she used it to drill three holes in some ceramic tile. It even has the little plastic collar that makes it into a router/edge trimmer!
Now to build that mini router table we recently got the plans for...
~~~GB~~~
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Good find GB. Paw Paw Ray, thanks for the plan I was saving for the dremel table, can now build te table and then get to spend my money on something else.
David
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Making your own Dremel Router table is just too good to pass up! So I finished mine tonight and I made the whole thing on my scroll saw. It works great. I used to use the Drill Press attachment and it worked but just was a bit more of a pain to setup. This is so much easier to use. I made the hole in the center of the top 1" in diameter which is plenty big enough but not too big. It is also bolted through my work bench so I don't have to clamp it to keep it in place. I also rounded the corners in the front. I could see myself banging into that nice point when I wasn't paying attention so rather then do that I rounded them so I don't have to worry about that now.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qgRp78jbRFU/TH2zTqUHkVI/AAAAAAAAANs/Ro-iriTI1po/s800/IMG_20100831_214536.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_qgRp78jbRFU/TH2yc9xZxzI/AAAAAAAAAN4/ubHtCa8HXrc/s800/IMG_20100831_214310.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_qgRp78jbRFU/TH2yR7KTXcI/AAAAAAAAAN0/B4gLfq2CLcs/s800/IMG_20100831_214247.jpg)
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Way to go Jim! Looks good!
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That looks SO GOOD I am going to send you my address and a few bucks and you can make me one!!!
Very nice job!!!
~~~GB~~~
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Great job on the table. You wont regret having one.
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Nice job Dremel Router table jim. I will be making me one this week. Thanks for posting the pics. 8)
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WOW, that a nice table router.
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After seeing that I really need to get making one will print out the plans and hope I can get round to it this weekend. Or I might just follow GB's idea :P Nice job Jim.
David
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I really need to work on this... but I just don't know where to start. My brain isn't working great lately. Maybe the change of seasons? ::)
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I love the table idea, I will be making one. Thanks for sharing the idea. This site is a real source of great information.
Gary