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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Toneman on September 11, 2013, 09:08:50 am
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This subject has probably been discussed before, but, when you get a certain age, one tends to forget more often than not! LOL I love cutting portraits of Native American and western subjects and I have been using frames with glass. What do ya'll think? Does the glass take away from the rustic presentation or does it help preserve the wood and add to the picture? I use 1/8" BB with a black poster paper for backing and glue brown rope around the frames to add to the rustic feature. I am just wandering if the glass takes away the rustic feature? Thanks in advance for your input.
Tony,aka,Toneman
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I think it looks good on them, especially ole Sitting Bull you have there. My question because I have never used glass except for frames from Wal-Mart, is what kind of glass do you use? Where do you buy it?
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I always use glass. Usually a UV glass. I don't want someone to have to dust it (or break it trying to dust it) and wood will yellow with age as sun shines on it. Actually, it is not the wood that yellows, it is the finish. Spar urethane has a uv protectant in it. I never use paper, although many do, as a backer because even black paper fades over the years. It can also buckle even if it is completely glued in. Fabric and felt also fade.
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i think it looks great i always use the glass.
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I use glass because it keeps the dust out and gives the work a more finished look. I used matting material that is somewhat fade resistant. I'm sure it all fades over time, though. Since the plywood is behind glass I don't put a finish on it. Not sure if there is a reason to. Any thoughts on that?
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Well maybe thats why I have trouble selling mine. Till this year I have NEVER used glass. Make my
frames. Since we're on this subject. HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT USING A....PLEXIGLASS????
Was given what seems like Plexiglass that came off a BIG projector T.V. Trashed the T.V. It seems
like it is 1/16".... Thanks for comments....
And like Dustin I have been picking up some Yard sale frames. Most seem to be made out of Plastic,
but sure look expensive. Thanks for any Comments.... Danny :+}
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Danny, the only problems with Plexiglass it scratches easily and dust seems to cling to it. Of course, any free material will find a use.
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I always use glass, it keeps the dust off the project. I have never used plexiglass.
Marg
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I have a friend who owns a frame shop who supplies my glass but do not know exactly what it is, although it is I guess what you call a safety glass similar to what is used in automobiles. I purchase most of my frames from Wal Mart or a dollar store, and must be wood because I customize them with router or other materials. Thank ya'll for your kind input and suggestions. Hope this thread also helps others.
Tony,aka,Toneman
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I have been using non glare Plexiglass in my frames for years, works great. I can cut it to any size I need. 8)
After using Plexiglass for over ten years I can say I have had no problems with scratching and or dust. 8)
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Dan, the finish will make the grain in the wood more visible. Even when I frame something, i finish it first.
Danny, I've never used plexiglass, but I know some people do. The only bad thing I have heard is that is scratches easily.
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On a portrait I use glass, on a sign I don't. Just my opinion. Love your rope banding.
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just an question on glass in frames.
I'm gonna make my first frame 7,5 x 11,5" and it has to have glass in it.
problem is the frame has to be 2" deep to hold thicker project.
it's not a picture frame, but more like a little box to hang on the wall with a keepsake in it.
how do I keep the glass from falling back into the frame if I don't want to glue it in there?
any ideas on how to make a frame with glass?
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Are you making your own frames? If so, you can cut a groove the thickness of the glass on the inside of the frame pieces using a table saw and install the glass before assembly of the frame.
OR...You can glue some small "stop" strips to the inside of the frame to support the glass and then edge band the face to trap the glass between the strips and outer edge banding.
Hope that helps.
Rog
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Are you making your own frames? If so, you can cut a groove the thickness of the glass on the inside of the frame pieces using a table saw and install the glass before assembly of the frame.
OR...You can glue some small "stop" strips to the inside of the frame to support the glass and then edge band the face to trap the glass between the strips and outer edge banding.
Hope that helps.
Rog
thangs Rog,
I wan to make it myself, but the first solution will not work for me, I have to paint the frame after it's glued.
and I don't want paint on the glass, so I guess the second one is better.
do you have pictures of that?
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Are you making your own frames? If so, you can cut a groove the thickness of the glass on the inside of the frame pieces using a table saw and install the glass before assembly of the frame.
OR...You can glue some small "stop" strips to the inside of the frame to support the glass and then edge band the face to trap the glass between the strips and outer edge banding.
Hope that helps.
Rog
thangs Rog,
I wan to make it myself, but the first solution will not work for me, I have to paint the frame after it's glued.
and I don't want paint on the glass, so I guess the second one is better.
do you have pictures of that?
I haven't made any picture frames like the first method I tried to describe but, I use it on my boxes all the time. This is my burial urn shown upside down to give you the idea.
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z299/rapidroger/My%20small%20boxes/MyurnPine005-1.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/rapidroger/media/My%20small%20boxes/MyurnPine005-1.jpg.html)
In your case of wanting to paint it, I would paint it before assembly. Just be careful about masking off the areas that will need glue and then you can touch up the corners if necessary after it is glued.
I'll try to find a picture of the second method using the backing strips. I know that I framed two stained glass windows not long ago with that method.
Be right back....
Rog
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OK, I finally found a picture of the frame I made. It is a bit larger than yours probably and it may be hard to see the stops because of the paint and I put LED lights in between them but maybe you get the idea.
They are used at the top, bottom and both sides of the frame to keep the glass from falling inward.
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z299/rapidroger/StainedGlass003_zpsf2d44a14.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/rapidroger/media/StainedGlass003_zpsf2d44a14.jpg.html)
This is the front of the frame. the trim strip keeps the glass from falling outward.
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z299/rapidroger/StainedGlass002_zpse0cf7905.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/rapidroger/media/StainedGlass002_zpse0cf7905.jpg.html)
Does this help you understand?
Rog
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thanks Rog,
especially the last two pics are quit like what I want.
do you have the inside pics as well?
btw I loved that picture of the glider, did you build it?
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z299/rapidroger/GliderMay13002_zps52c5a9b3.jpg)
looks awesome!
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thanks Rog,
especially the last two pics are quit like what I want.
do you have the inside pics as well?
btw I loved that picture of the glider, did you build it?
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z299/rapidroger/GliderMay13002_zps52c5a9b3.jpg)
looks awesome
Thank you.
Yes, I built that glider this spring as a retirement gift for my wife.
We had two awnings installed over our patio to get more use out of it and needed some place to sit and enjoy the summer.
It is made of aromatic cedar wood and I got the plans from Wood Magazine. I seldom use plans (altho I even changed them up a bit on this one by adding the drink holders and the angle on the back) but, this was a big enough project that I didn't want to start from scratch this time.
Rog