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Title: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on July 28, 2013, 09:11:20 am
This "brick" of cedar wood was at the local flee market. They had a pallet piled high with them. They sell for $3.75 and have 100 pieces that are 3" x 7.25" and slightly under 3/16 thick.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--Njeva8tOFY/UfUWvVUKCoI/AAAAAAAAAy8/OuA76nCuttY/w421-h563-no/cedar1.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IwMndtE33FI/UfUWwFAZg0I/AAAAAAAAAzE/eepckzWt5X0/w754-h563-no/cedar2.jpg)

Has anyone used these for scrolling? They seem to be aromatic cedar, clear grain, nice dry blanks. A little small, but just the thing for some projects. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: julief on July 28, 2013, 09:17:51 am
I have bought the cedar planks for grilling fish from woot before and find the wood is very soft.  Be careful of too much detail.  Otherwise - cut away.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: dunk on July 28, 2013, 11:50:48 am
They are probably cut down cedar fencing material.  I buy about 10 boards every year when they go on sale.  Works great for out door projects.  use a mask dust is toxic...
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Rapid Roger on July 28, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
I've used some cedar in the recent past but, not for scrolling, mine was a bit thicker........


(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z299/rapidroger/GliderMay13002_zps52c5a9b3.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/rapidroger/media/GliderMay13002_zps52c5a9b3.jpg.html)

 :D ;D ;)

I'm not sure how well it will scroll, especially more detailed cuttings, but, for larger cuts I think it would look very nice for a "WELCOME" sign or maybe the family name type sign.
I say "GO FOR IT!" and report back with how it cut and some pictures of you work. I would be interested seeing it.
The wood is priced right anyway!

Rog   
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: dirtrider73068 on July 28, 2013, 01:44:02 pm
You could glue some together to get the thickness or size you needed.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on July 28, 2013, 02:30:27 pm
You could glue some together to get the thickness or size you needed.
Good idea. I thought about stacking then for some Intarsia - you could add depth in pretty small steps.
Here are a couple of dragonflies cut to the scale of the Bruce Worthington "Dragonfly on a cattail" Intarsia. Both came from one cedar blank. The wingspan is about 3.75". The wings are long-grain and strong but the body is cross-grain and could break.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DmljQt-dFns/UfVhxSii2kI/AAAAAAAAAzU/POitAGRW1Hg/w737-h563-no/CedarDragonFlies.jpg)
They cut without any problems with an FD-UR#1 blade. I guess I could stack a body and wings on this outline to give it some dimension. I'll try that and post a photo.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: dunk on July 28, 2013, 02:43:01 pm
Looking good.  Be watching for the update.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: dirtrider73068 on July 28, 2013, 02:50:56 pm
Yup and kinda like taking strips of wood like 2 inch and turn it into 4 or 8 inch wide board and slideing them together to get widths, would be able to change the color and grain when doing this would get alot of variations or looks.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: rfarmer on July 28, 2013, 09:28:21 pm
I get some cedar planks from the .99 store they are 5/16 x 5 1/4 x 12 for of course $.99. I've used them for a couple of projects and so far have worked well. I built the bird house Steve put up awhile back with them. They are actually cedar planks used to cook fish on.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: mrsn on July 31, 2013, 10:29:04 pm
I have used cedar for some projects. It can split very easily when it is thin, so watch the grain.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Gabby on August 10, 2013, 01:12:56 am
I had always heard Cedar is toxic am I wrong?
If I'm right I don't think I would want to cook with it.

Thanks EI the thickness is good but I wouldn't want all the glue up for a plaque, it wouldn't be a work saver.
Gabby
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: dirtrider73068 on August 10, 2013, 12:11:57 pm
It can be there was a chart post in here somewhere about wood toxicty's might do a search unless some one knows where or has it handy.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: CaptSpiffy on August 21, 2013, 10:27:28 pm
You knpw Ray, I would buy some just to try it out.
I'll bet it would be fine for a lot of projects.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on August 21, 2013, 11:39:51 pm
Here's a finger jointed box made from that cedar to hold a small skinning knife. It cuts easily and joins up well. I suspect that the cedar planks might have come from a cigar box operation -  they look like side wall blanks.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n-PHgl7roG4/UgOqDj3LsrI/AAAAAAAAA1Y/H8JQfvPmlQ0/w1044-h374-no/Skinner+Box+Open.jpg)
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Gabby on August 22, 2013, 10:46:16 pm
Is that going to be a presentation box Ray?
That would be cool.
Gabby
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on August 22, 2013, 11:16:22 pm
Bill - We have an annual event here called ManWeek. The women leave the property and the men (including nephews, brothers-in-law, a few select friends) guzzle beer and have 3 days of competitions of great skill (battle ax, horse shoes, frisbee) and strength (caber toss, tire throw, sledge hammer throw). And outdoor manly movies (nothing dirty, but movies the women refuse to watch - "Predator", "Pulp Fiction", "Silence of the Lambs", "Tombstone", like that). This year one of the nephew's friends, Chico,  slaughtered a goat and cooked it for us in a big pot, including the organ meat. I made that skinner knife, sheath, and the cedar box as a gift for Chico for helping out with the event.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Gabby on August 23, 2013, 05:20:07 am
That's cool Ray, I hope you also have the manly art of telling the biggest story, it sure sounds like it. LOL
That was a very nice gift and very thoughtful. But that sure makes the goat very expensive.  ;D ;D
Gabby
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on August 23, 2013, 08:46:37 am
If you forget about paper dollars, then you need a basis to trade goods and services. In the book "Alas, Babylon" civilization is broken by a nuclear exchange between the US and the USSR. After the 1st winter, paper money was used for toilet paper and the only currency in play to buy things was the 22 caliber bullet (2 bullets to buy a rabbit).

Chico bought, slaughtered, butchered, cooked, and served 15 people an excellent meal that they'd never had before. I spent $15 plus about 4 hours finishing the knife, making the sheath, and making the box and enjoyed every minute of it. I think it was a great bargain. I hope he thinks so as well.

Please don't think I'm lecturing - just trying to explain my thought process. We might need more of this type of barter in the post-BHO economy. We always laughed at a friend who traded a shotgun barrel for dental work. We're not laughing now.

http://www.amazon.com/Alas-Babylon-Pat-Frank/dp/0060741872/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377261368&sr=8-1&keywords=alas+babylon (http://www.amazon.com/Alas-Babylon-Pat-Frank/dp/0060741872/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377261368&sr=8-1&keywords=alas+babylon)
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Gabby on August 28, 2013, 02:51:47 am
About as close to barter as I'll be getting is giving the MG TD cutting to my neighbor as a Quote GIFT and I'm finagling him into getting some light tractor work done.
I don't know who will get the better deal but I suspect it will be him as I've already got about 6 hours in it and probably will need at least another 6 to finish it maybe more.

As for the costly goat I was being facetious and making a silly joke.  :)
Gabby
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on August 28, 2013, 09:25:12 am
Is there a problem with the pattern? I wouldn't think that MG-TD should take anything like 12 hours to cut.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Gabby on September 01, 2013, 04:36:31 am
Is there a problem with the pattern? I wouldn't think that MG-TD should take anything like 12 hours to cut.

Nope I'm just slow and careful and remember I'm using FD UR-1 blades so a lot of those lines get cut twice to get the width needed (the times were just estimates and were probably on the long side). At that I think some could have been made wider, but I have finished the cutting on the TD and am working on the MGA now. Mostly have the wheels to do and a little finish up of the supporting area after they are done. Sure is a lot of little cuts and they take more time than big ones do because of the blade changes from hole to hole. Once the cutting is done I'll set up on the kitchen table to do the painting, his will be RED but I am thinking about trying to match the Ash Green on mine, :-\ but maybe I'll say to heck with it I always wanted a RED car! ;D ;D ;D
Gabby
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: EIEIO on September 01, 2013, 09:18:17 am
Cool. Please post a photo when they're done.
Title: Re: Surprise wood find
Post by: Gabby on September 03, 2013, 03:24:00 am
Cutting is all done now for the hard part.
G