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General Category => General Scroll Saw Talk => Topic started by: Gary on June 01, 2010, 02:02:40 pm
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Hi All,
I was wondering what you use to hold or lay thin material on while sanding with an orbital or vibrating sander or just hand sanding. My finger tips have hardly any prints left. For you gals with long nails that has to be a big problem. I have a rubber dimpled type pad for use with router's to hold the wood firm but it is pretty much useless with a vibrating sander. Any ideas would be appreciated. 1/8 inch plywood is really hard for me.....Gary
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Hi, Gary:
I use those foam pads that kind of go together like puzzle pieces and they use them for flooring in shops, etc. I know Wal-Mart carries them and many other places like Sam's Club do too. I found some in our dollar store here that were about 1 foot square that are ideal for smaller items. The pads support, but they also give a little bit so the piece doesn't go sliding all over the place. The ones used for flooring and mats are about 2.5 feet square. They would certainly be good for a shop table, I would think.
:) Sheila
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;) You can pinch small pieces that can not be held with the fingers just by jamming with the nails with a head on a block of wood that is tennu on the bench with clamps attached.
Nails should be driven course so it does not exceed the piece to be sanded ;)
(http://sd-2.archive-host.com/membres/images/207897937835548737/poncage_petites_pieces.jpg)
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I use an piece of carpet glued to plywood aprox 30"X30". Holds the wood, works well for me and the price was right, Free. 8)
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I use the rubbery shelf liners myself. Also double sided carpet tape to hold down the shelving pieces.
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Several years ago I made a frame from 1x2 that is approx. 18"x24" and put a piece of pegboard on top so the dust has somewhere to go, then I stapled the rubber shelf liner to it. You could put a hole in it somewhere to stick a shop vac hose in for dust extraction also. I had to put a cross member in the center of mine for support, but one that is say 12x12" probably wouldn't need it. I'll try to remember to get some pics and post them in a day or so.
Greg
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Because I have problems with my hands. I mounted my vibrating sander upside down to my bench. Its easier to hold the wood than the sander
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Great idea crusty59. Got me thinking, I might try that. Necessity is the mother of inventions. 8)
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Wow. My hands always hurt when I am done sanding, even the smallest thing, now I have to have Jaun build me something else. Has anyone ever used the Sand-Flee? I know it is the same as a small drum sander, but I have been reading up on it. Any thoughts will be a great help.
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I have one Cherie. I do like it, but it has been in storage because I am in a small place right now and don't have room for it. It does a decent job, even on fretwork plaques. I did find that I did still have to lightly sand some little fuzzies that were left behind. But that was more detail sanding. Overall, I like it though. I am interested in seeing what others think of it too. Should we start a new thread you think?
Sheila
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Working on it as we speak. Thanks Sheila.
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I saw the demo video. I just think they are a little priceeee. I have also been looking on craigs list but haven't seen one yet. ::)
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For small stuff I turn my 1/4 sheet sander upside down in a wood vise. I also have a 6X48 stationery belt sander that gets a lot of the shaping and gross sanding work. I subscribe to the motto of the "Mere Mortals of Woodworking" website which states that the steps in woodworking are, saw, glue, sand, sand, sand, sand, sand, sand,sand, beer.
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I still think that beer would add a little color to wood if it were spilt. LOL
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Hi Gary
When sanding a flat piece of wood ready for cutting I use anti slip cloth it can be bought from the $ shops and exelent, I use it with a belt sander as well as an orbital, it you are uses sand paper in you had to sand get some medium density foam and wrap the paper around that, for sandind edges I glue the paper on to a narrow piece of wood, I use worn sanding belts, hope this helps
Jimbo
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You can also get 12" x 12" pieces of "granite" tile from Home Depot or probably Lowes too. I use the temp. adhesive spray that I use for patterns and attach a sheet of sandpaper to that. I put some of that shelf stuff under the tile. It will still slide a little bit now and then but it is a good straight platform to just lay the piece on and slide it back and forth for light sanding.
Somebody told me I should have gone to a store that does granite counter tops and asked them if they had any scraps but that was after I'd already bought a few tiles. They were only about $2 each anyway.
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Good post Gary - I have the same problems with holding pieces for sanding. Thanks for the good ideas, everyone. Crusty and Bill have really got me thinking.
Barry
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Because I have problems with my hands. I mounted my vibrating sander upside down to my bench. Its easier to hold the wood than the sander
I tried turning a triangular sander upside down in my vise, but I did not touch strong enough to hold small parts, especially if they are only five millimeters thick. Which means that I sand my nails over my wood! ...
I tried also on the end carpets are made of rubber anti d?rappant, but when it came to small parts, carpet was rolled between the workpiece and the table because it is too late.
Finally I tried also with double sided tape, but no one knows sanding side, because when we returned on the room for the sand on the other hand, there is always the double-sided adhesive that comes to remmettre on the piece.
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Has anyone tried the Rockler Bench Cookie. I saw the video demo, the guy uses a belt sander on a piece of wood being held by the Bench Cookies and it didn't move. For routing, sanding, carving and more. Very impressive and not over priced. 8)
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Has anyone tried the Rockler Bench Cookie. I saw the video demo, the guy uses a belt sander on a piece of wood being held by the Bench Cookies and it didn't move. For routing, sanding, carving and more. Very impressive and not over priced. 8)
Here is an idea this ... A belt sander with a freeze placed vertically on the bottom ... Take a stick and glue the small room above with rubber glue ... A kind of chewing gum that is put behind for pasting posters on the walls ... This product can be continuously reused and leaves no trace when removed ... Because it behaves like a sucker ...
Then apply the patch over the band sander and retained by the stick ...
I do not know what a cookies.
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Here is the Web Site for the Rockler Bench Cookie.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21496 (http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21496)
8)
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Yes, I see now, we'll call it antid?rappants skates, and it is true that it is very convenient. But I thought it was much more expensive! ... I'll go see where I buy my stuff! ... We have four runners for 22 euros 10, with my right discount instead of 26. That made 27 dollards instead of 31.
This makes three times more expensive than you!... :'( :-\
In my store, they also sell the rubber mat which is much cheaper, 10 euro = 12 dollards. They are 30 centimeters by 80 centimeters and can stick a big block of wood. I just need to make two holes on the fields of the block and tighten it on my set with claws attached.
I would be a good table sanding flat on the cheap. I think I'll opt for that. Nothing prevents me also make me a little slip surface for small parts, because I can cut the carpet to the size I want.
In addition, it can serve me well for my router for my knives carving.
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I use a 24" clamp and hold my 1/4 sheet sander upside down. Works great for me I just put it on top of my home made downdraft table which has the anti slip pad on top.
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The backside of an old mousepad works well for me ..
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Thank you all for sharing your innovative solutions. I'm excited to give them a try......Gary
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I just turn my sander upside down in my vice and this works ok for me. Am planning on buying a small beltsander from proxxon once I get the money together.
David
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A word of warning/advice I had my 3inch belt sander upside down in the vice for some time and failed to dust it regular, and you guessed it the dust killed it quick smart.
I don't think they like being upside down without regular dusting/cleaning.
merlin
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All right let me try this again, here is a link to my sanding station that I made several years ago, it works great for fretwork.
http://joesawdust-thesawdustfactory.blogspot.com/2010/06/sanding-station.html
Greg
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All right let me try this again, here is a link to my sanding station that I made several years ago, it works great for fretwork.
http://joesawdust-thesawdustfactory.blogspot.com/2010/06/sanding-station.html
Greg
Waooowww! ... Super sanding table, I could do myself to make one with the suction system again, it vraimant practice! ... Not have it as great for me !...
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if you can find someone laying carpet they usually have scraps of foam pad laying around, ikeep a stash of these in a cabinet they last quite long and are free and work really great.
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I like your sanding station Greg. And did you say a vacuum is hooked up it. ?
??? 8)
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Russ, I do have a hole in it to stick a small vacum hose into but seldom use it, simply because I had to put a brace down the center of it to support the top due to the size, I could probably put a hole in the brace piece and get sastisfactory results, may have to try that. The material covering it is the padded shelf liner from a dollar store, using it allows the dust to fall through, and it grips good. I added the trays for the sanders just recently because I don't wait on the sanders to stop spinning and I can just set them down in the tray and not worry about them chasing me around. This can be made any size that would fit someones needs for cheap. Glad ya like it.
Greg
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Here is a plan for a simple to build downdraft table.
http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/plansshare/air_filter_downdraft_sanding_table.htm
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Cherie... I LOVE my Sand Flee Just finished a bunch of "hair daggers". It made them smooth as silk. Cannot imagine sanding those things by hand.
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I don't know how well it works for anybody else, but I took the tread off of a old tread mill and covered my work bench with it. I can lay down a piece I've been working on, and lay it flat, and sand away. Ganite, I've boken pieces I've worked on, and had to glue the pieces back together. I really don't think there is a method for not breaking small pieces. If you know of one, please let us know. Dave 8)
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Here is a plan for a simple to build downdraft table.
http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/plansshare/air_filter_downdraft_sanding_table.htm
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