Scrollsaw Workshop Community -Please register to enable posting.

General Category => Intarsia => Topic started by: scrollgirl on May 09, 2010, 11:06:12 am

Title: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: scrollgirl on May 09, 2010, 11:06:12 am
I know this is an Intarsia board, but I am new to Intarsia and want to learn to do it, but right now I mostly do 'segmentation'.  Would I be more appropriate on the general woodworking board, or do you Intarsia artists consider segmentation part of your craft?

Thanks in advance?
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: dgman on May 09, 2010, 12:00:55 pm
Absolutely!! Intarsia is basically segmentation, It's just shaped differently.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: daneklund on May 09, 2010, 05:54:21 pm
Let me throw in my 2 cents worth.  As I understand it, segmentation is typically made from one piece of wood.  As you cut the pieces the grain will be running in the same direction.  You will do some sanding of the edges and then you finish the pieces using stain, paint, dye, etc.  You reassemble the pieces and glue it together. When you do an intarsia piece, you most likely will use several different wood pieces.  You try and take advantage of the grain direction, color of the wood, and grain pattern to give the finished affect. Then you cut the individual pieces, shape/sand them for affect. You normally do not use anything but a clear finish on the final piece.  JGR instructs to finish the pieces before final assembly.  That eliminates trapping finish between the pieces and catching dust etc.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: daneklund on May 09, 2010, 05:56:48 pm
I also meant to say that segmentation and intarsia are closely related.  Intarsia is more labor intensive to achieve the final result.  I think this is a great forum and this is a good place to ask any questions on either method.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: budprine on May 16, 2010, 08:13:51 pm
Good info here.  Thanx for sharing.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: pieter on May 17, 2010, 11:33:29 am
As a newbie to the intarsia world, I am starting out with segmentation and learning new technics as I go along.  I am working my way through "Intarsia Woodworking For Beginners" by Kathy Wise.  With that said, I would love to see "segmentation" discussed here!

Pieter
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: cherie on May 18, 2010, 11:01:21 pm
If I make it to the picnic, this will be one seminar I do not miss.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: BigE on July 12, 2010, 11:20:23 pm
I think we should talk about and do it all. (Intarsia or Segmentation.) If after about 20 years you want to specialize then go for it. I think it's great to see all aspects of what can be accomplished with the scroll saw, and most of all the talents of our fellow and Gals projects whether for sale, or just fun.
BigE
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Intarsia92 on July 13, 2010, 11:42:51 am
There is a good book out "Scroll Saw Segmentation" by Patrick Spielman. It describes Segmentation versus  Intarsia and the advantages of each. There is a chapter showing the tools, and how to use them. And it has 35-40 segmentation patterns along with a few for making Intarsias.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Dawie on July 15, 2010, 01:01:20 pm
Once again I learnt something today. Thanks for all the info guys.
David
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Becky on July 15, 2010, 11:06:47 pm
I am all for some segmentation discussion too.  I've recently started playing with it and am having a lot of fun.  I would love to read more words of wisdom from those who have gone through the learning curve before me.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Terry Jackson on July 19, 2010, 12:36:32 am
I've done one segmentation 4 times, and each repetition of the same pattern teaches another lesson and improves the result and reduces the time needed.   I suspect it is training wheels for intarsia, given the difference in cost between decent locally available wood and the exotics.  It is also simple but unique and attractive enough that I can sell them quite profitably.  It is the bear door topper from a recent magazine.  Another benefit is the pieces are large enough that a zero-clearance table is not needed and my fat fingers can grasp them to sand.

Glad to see the consensus is that segmentation gets included. 
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Intarsia92 on July 19, 2010, 01:12:26 pm
This was my first attempt at Segmentation.  It was made in 1991, using an OLD, Dremel Scroll Saw with 3? Pin type blade.

I don?t remember why I gave it to my wife, but she still has it hanging on the wall in her sewing room.


[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Dragonlord85 on July 19, 2010, 02:54:45 pm
This was my first segmentation piece.



[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Dragonlord85 on July 19, 2010, 02:57:56 pm
Here is a bigger picture.

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b441/Dragonlord85_album/Scroll%20saw%20projects/10-8012Bobcat.jpg)
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Becky on July 20, 2010, 12:03:57 am
You don't start small, do you?  I don't mean in terms of the size of the piece but in terms of the difficulty.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Marcellarius on July 28, 2010, 02:32:24 pm
Thanks for explaning and sharing everyone!

My first piece was a sparrow
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Dawie on July 28, 2010, 04:32:20 pm
Really some nice stuff been posted since the last time I was here. Thanks for sharing.
David
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: canadasgall on July 30, 2010, 05:48:07 pm
i also started with segmentation using mostly pine then eventually adding a different color wood here and there. it was easier to get the basics for intarsia. now i only do intarsia there are so many beautiful wood to show off your projects i think thats what makes it so addictive lol.
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: northie66 on July 30, 2010, 06:35:18 pm
Cute sparrow Marcellarius!
Title: Re: This may sound like a stupid question . . . . .
Post by: Russ C on July 30, 2010, 08:45:30 pm
Allot of nice work being posted here. Good job too all.  8)