Remember, that these paterns are for pumpkin carving. The areas that you are removing would be the light areas on a pumpkin not the shaded areas on a scroll saw relief picture. Also on the advanced paterns the crosshatched areas are not cut through on the pumpkin they give a lighter shaded area. The Cool Aid pattern is just an outline so it will be OK cut as a scroll saw patern. If you cut the portrait patern as you normally do, you will end up with a negative. These are nice paterns, but you need to make some changes to cut them.