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Title: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 16, 2010, 11:16:50 am
That is so weird that Steve releases this today. Just last night I was trying to figure out a way to change the page numbers on the PDF files so I could see what the patterns were without opening them.

Steve you're awesome!
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: GrayBeard on June 16, 2010, 11:29:54 am
I have been thinking! (Dangerous, I know!)

Maybe we should keep tis site to ourselves.
Just think how SMART we would appear to others who don't have access to all this great programming and information!

BUT, that's what we do!

WE SHARE...and Steve shares so much that we can never really begin to Thank him enough, right?

And his knack of anticipation is absolutely uncanny!

Bless Ya, Steve!!!!

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: MadHatter on June 16, 2010, 01:05:41 pm
i had been hoping for a program as yall were. thank you steve for designing this. : )
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: edward on June 16, 2010, 04:15:48 pm
 I'am not really good at computers, but when I open Steves liberary, it only comes up 1/2 screen, is anyone else have that problem, or is it on my end.  Edward
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Merlin on June 16, 2010, 05:08:25 pm
edward: I think it's meant to be only half screen

Merlin

Bugger I have been known to be wrong on the odd occasion.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: boxmaker on June 16, 2010, 05:54:14 pm
Thank you Steve, I no longer have to rename my files with mile long names so I know what they are.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 16, 2010, 06:11:08 pm
Yes, it's only supposed to be 1/2 screen.

One thing I wish were different is that you could add a bunch of files at once... then set the picture page.  Right now I believe you have to "import" each individual pattern.  Am I right or is there a way to do a bunch at once?
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 16, 2010, 06:16:02 pm
Also... just a note to everyone... make sure your patterns are where you want to keep them on your computer... because if you move them AFTER putting them in here, it won't find them and you'll have to put them in again.  It remembers where they are when you imported them into the program.

This program is great though.  Thanks so much Steve!
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 16, 2010, 08:05:57 pm
WOW!  The first one I tried...it went goofy on me.  I selected the one i wanted in the far left of the program, went to add it and i got ALOT of "Bitmap Image Is Not Valid" windows.....one right after the other.  They just kept coming and coming until I Ctrl+Alt+Deleted out of it.  :( I was looking so forward to doing this.  Help me Steve!  See link below for what happened on my screen:
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb136/artistic_cowboy30/Program.jpg
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 16, 2010, 08:09:03 pm
Just tried again and double clicked the icon on my desktop to open it.....got the 50 million bitmap messages right off the bat before I could do anything.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 16, 2010, 08:17:49 pm
Uninstalled it and reinstalled it.  Still doing it.  Sorry Steve :(
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: sp_343 on June 16, 2010, 08:19:19 pm
Having the same problem as Charlie...put my first pattern in and BAM!!  Bitmap Image is not Valid....over and over...had to shut it down to get it to stop...still doing it every time I open the program.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Russ C on June 16, 2010, 09:03:44 pm
Mine had the same problem. I think it has an issue with the first .bmp. I used Windows Explorer and went to C:\Program Files\Pattern Library. Deleted the first .bmp it made. Tried it again and it worked perfect.   8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: MadHatter on June 16, 2010, 09:49:21 pm
mine will only save the pdf files, but it wont save jpeg, not sure if it's suppose to or not.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Joesawdust on June 16, 2010, 09:57:15 pm
It gives me the same error message, and like some of the others I've uninstalled and reinstalled with the same results.  Like Russ suggested I went to program files/pattern libray and the only thing in the folder was the icon for the program and the uninstall icon.

Greg
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: boxmaker on June 16, 2010, 10:02:50 pm
Maybe I was just lucky, I haven't had any problems. I wonder if your windows updates are current or all you drivers are current, just a thought, like I said I have not had any trouble. I hope you can all get it to work it is nice, just like Steves video says.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: dgman on June 16, 2010, 10:06:33 pm
Looks like I'm not going to install it till the bugs are worked out!
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 16, 2010, 10:53:42 pm
So far I've got pdf's and gif's to work.  Not jpg's though.  I haven't had an issues with the program though.  It will either work or not for certain file types.  I haven't had anything like Charlie is reporting.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: wedo on June 16, 2010, 11:59:58 pm
Yeah, I tried it and had the same results as Charlie. I guess I'll delete and wait for improved model.
Bill
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Russ C on June 17, 2010, 08:24:26 am
I have been experimenting with the program and found it does not like .jpg files.
Tried it several times with the same results. As I said earlier, I used Windows Explorer and went to C:\Program Files\Pattern Library. Deleted the first .bmp it made, or all .bmps. Then it worked perfect. Just stay away from .jpg files. Seems to only work with .pdf. Will try .gif and bmp next.
 8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: MadHatter on June 17, 2010, 08:52:08 am
after experimenting with jpg and some bmp's, i was able to add them to the pattern library program. to do this, i first opened the pic with paint program, then clicked on the file tab and clicked on "save as" then in the box that opened click on "file type" and select "GIF", then click save, i then was able to save it to the pattern library.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Russ C on June 17, 2010, 08:55:58 am
Found the samething as MadHatter. The program seems to have an issue with .jpg. Covert them to .gif and it works.
 8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 17, 2010, 05:13:08 pm
Good idea Madhatter... do you lose integrity of the file though?
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Merlin on June 17, 2010, 05:19:02 pm
Great idea but..... I have hundreds of JPG files hmmmmm
Oh well steve has another update we try that first me thinks.

Merlin
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: MadHatter on June 17, 2010, 06:49:08 pm
hi janet, the contrast was lost just a bit, but i also saved the original that i changed to a gif file.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 17, 2010, 08:22:42 pm
It's weird... the pdf's that Steve made work.  The pdf's that I made don't.  I can't figure out why.  I think I'm just going to keep them disorganized... it's easier that way  ;)
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Joesawdust on June 17, 2010, 08:41:43 pm
I already have mine somewhat organized by category in individual folders, which are in a folder named of all things "patterns", and I burn a cd once in a while as a back up. The program will be great when the bugs are worked out, but for now I'll stick to my system of downloading them directly into the appropriate folder as I get them.

Greg
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 18, 2010, 01:23:01 am
I have mine in .pdf, .gif, .jpg, .bmp so I need to be able to put them all on lol.  I also have multiple folders for my patterns, patterns from others, patterns I can't sell, patterns I can sell, Patterns needing work, patterns in catalogs, etc.  Whew.  I appreciate your effort Steve, but I'm gonna have to wait for the new and improved version too.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 18, 2010, 01:45:23 am
Just checked.  Steve has a newer version of the program posted on the blog
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 18, 2010, 05:01:23 am
But I'm only able to save pdf's.  Not .jpg, .bmp or .gif  Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: loftyhermes on June 18, 2010, 05:46:57 am
Steve has posted on his website that he's removed the software.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Russ C on June 18, 2010, 06:40:37 am
Yes Steve has removed the Pattern Library software. Any one wanting more information can go to his web site. http://scrollsawworkshop.blogspot.com/ (http://scrollsawworkshop.blogspot.com/). I guess I understand his reason but a real bummer if you ask me.
 :(  :(  :(
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: ufgator on June 18, 2010, 07:25:08 am
I admire Steve for the action he has taken. I believe he made the right decision as hard as it may have been.  His integrity is a valuable asset for all to be aware of.

Bill
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: GrayBeard on June 18, 2010, 09:54:55 am
In the software development world those of us who tested are called Alpha or Beta Testers.

Found the bugs and made them known.

That is how the whole thing works.

Big Thank You to Steve for making the effort and i suspect it will be back at some future date!

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: GrayBeard on June 18, 2010, 10:37:14 am
I posted the above before reading my email from Steve.

Again, Steve shows the kind of man he is!

The Boy Scout Oath sure fits HIM!

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: CMHN on June 18, 2010, 02:28:28 pm
It is irritating, I understand the reason but I was looking forward for the inexpensive software.   I have been out of work for over a year now and don't have the money to pay for the FilePick software.   Steve's software was what I was looking for and now its not available because somebody already has software like it, that's called a monopoly.  I donate to Steve for his patterns and software when I have the extra to do so, but if I want a program like this I HAVE to pay for it.  That's just rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: dgman on June 18, 2010, 04:02:18 pm
Steve's just trying to be fair!
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Spartan scroller on June 18, 2010, 04:21:25 pm
c'mon CMHN.  Read the post on Steve's website. Monopoly? This isn't microsoft or Apple trying to squash a fly with a baseball bat.  Steve said the guy needs the money more than he does so he gracefully took his off the market. That's called compassion,
kindness and integrity. Steve Good is a GOOD man.  You're whining about paying 40 bucks for a piece of software you want. Obviously you have a computer and internet access so you can't be that poor.  Set aside a few pennies until you got enough or get some file folders and a box. If this sounds harsh, too bad. You sound like someone who needs a good kick in the pants to get motivated.

regards,
Terry
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: ufgator on June 18, 2010, 04:39:35 pm
CMHN; Not everything you want in life is FREE or will it be handed to you. I get Very Irritated when someone wants what I develop and make for little or nothing.  If you work hard enough at your scrolling and try to sell it you could afford to pay for the mans program and he could continue to make his living.

Sorry, but that just my opinion
     Bill
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: GrayBeard on June 18, 2010, 05:12:22 pm
I'm with you guys.

Chmn

Member since day 1...2 posts

I'm sure he hasn't captured any of the patterns presented for the membership!

Just an 'observation'!

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 18, 2010, 06:51:28 pm
I think Steve did the right thing.  Not that it matters what I think.  It doesn't matter what anyone thinks.  Steve has to do what HE thinks is right.  I don't think anyone should argue over it.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: dgman on June 18, 2010, 06:59:46 pm
Steve did the rite thing and I appreciate his integrity.
And Janet, we all care what you have to say! :D
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: boxmaker on June 18, 2010, 10:24:00 pm
Steve is always looking out for everybody, that's just the kind of guy he is, he posts patterns, software and videos, anything he can to help the scrolling community, I can't believe some whiner would even have the nerve to post on here and say what he said. Steve is just trying to be fair to everyone out there, times are tough for everyone. I agree with what he did 100%.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: chips on June 19, 2010, 09:15:40 am
 Maybe I missed it but hope all you that were talking about having downloaded the program have now erased it.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Charlie Dearing on June 19, 2010, 09:18:38 am
Please keep negative comments private folks.  The member has the right like all of us to post here.  I know broke and I know the lengths Steve tries to go to to help us.  The member wasn't trying to outright whine and I have whined alot more than he has.  I know you all are passionate about some things, but please do the negative personal attacks private.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 19, 2010, 09:39:01 pm
I uninstalled it from my pc.  No point in having it.
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: GrayBeard on June 19, 2010, 10:07:34 pm
Me too...
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: CMHN on June 20, 2010, 09:35:51 am
I knew there was going to be fallout with my post.    I have been following Steve for a long time now,  just because I don't post on the forums don't mean that I'm not active in is blog.  I know that you cant get everything for free, but I can try,  $40 is a lot of money for a program to organize someones patterns,  I can do that with windows and folders.   I can do without the program, that doesn't bother me so much.  

I understand the reasoning why Steve pulled the program,  he is a great guy and does a lot for the scrolling community.   This does show where his heart is.  Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to show Steve any kind of disrespect, I was just expressing my feelings.   I visit his blog, subscribed to his email list, and joined his forums.   I saw the program when I was at school and couldn't download it and when I got home the next day to download it, it was gone.    IT was disappointing,  I looked at the other program but cant justify $40 for it when I can live without it.   But a free program is worth downloading and using if it would make something a little easier.

So for all of you who think I'm a little winney person, so be it.  I'm the one who spoke up against the idea of pulling the program and I do have big shoulders and can handle any negative feedback that comes my way.  
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: GrayBeard on June 20, 2010, 11:18:44 am
That, my friend, is the problem with internet communication. It is much easier to 'interpret' what is being said when you can see the person,  listen to the words and 'read' the body language!'

I think I have stated this here before...What I find it takes to get through life are three things...
1. Broad Shoulders
2. Tough Hide
3. A sense of humor

No offense meant.

~~~GrayBeard~~~
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: Spartan scroller on June 20, 2010, 11:21:28 am
Fair enough CM.  Your post just struck a nerve with me that's alll.  I too am familiar with the unemployment struggle.  I gave up golf, a game I dearly love, because I couldn't afford to play anymore.  I kept my scroll saw going with money made from craft shows. Finally landed a job making just slightly more than minimum wage (keep creating those "high paying good jobs" Pesident Obama) These are tough times.   These are tough times and a lot of people are on edge.  It doesn't take much to light the fuse.  I do wish you well.  Good Luck.

Terry
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: ufgator on June 20, 2010, 12:03:31 pm
CMHN; Thanks for being man enough to come back and making your statement clear.  I'm sorry you are currently unemployed I know it is difficult for you, I have also been there before. Hang in there and Good Luck.

Bill
Title: Re: Pattern software
Post by: northie66 on June 20, 2010, 04:20:57 pm
CMHN - no hard feelings here.  Everyone is entitled to their feelings.