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Offline spartanscroller

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Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:32:57 PM »
Two years ago I purchased an Excalibur ex-21 here in Michigan. it was from a company with a generic sounding name General. I was excited to have it as everyone seemed to be recommending it. Two weeks later rumors began to fly about manufacturing problems in Taiwan and in another two weeks it was announced that General would no longer be producing and selling the saw! Then Seyco  comes out with exact same saw only with a bigger table. Now I see on today's scroll saw workshop another Canadian company called King is now manufacturing the same saw at the same plant in Taiwan that General was using. In the immortal words of coach Vince Lombardi "What the Hell's goin on out here!"I am concerned about the availabiility of parts for my saw. Recently I replaced the slide bracket and thumb screw on the upper blade clamp bracket. I did not see the slide bracket listed on Seyco's sight so I called general and ordered it from them. The parts were less than $20 and weighed less than six ounces and they charged me $32 for shipping. Is this what I can expect from now on if I need to replace parts. Are the King scroll saw parts interchangeable with the ex-21? Oh, I almost forgot, according to Steve's story on his blog this morning. King made an agreement to sell only the 16 and 31 inch saws. Thought General was a reputable company. Now I really regret buying this saw even though it has served me well for the past two years, but I not ready to jump to another saw just yet. Anybody have any thoughts or information/
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Offline Jim Finn

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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 05:37:20 PM »
If you want company and design stability along with parts availability....   one word....Hegner.  I just received a replacement part for my 1986 Hegner.
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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 05:50:54 PM »
International shipping charges are killer. Call Ray at seyco next time he may have the parts you need just not listed on the site. Or maybe even the parts from his saw may fit the ex saw pending what parts you need.

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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 09:07:35 PM »
International shipping is a real killer.  Just ask us Canadians that want to order stuff from US.  The coins from Steve are $4 Shipping in the US and $14 to Canada. Change that to Canadian $ and it is $20.

I wanted to order the upper blade clamp from Seyco last time and shipping was really expensive was just the same so I ordered from General in Montreal and the cost was $12.

The EX-21 is now available at Home Depot in the US so things may work out. 

If I was looking at parts I would call Seyco first.


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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 12:13:57 PM »
I guess I do not understand why you are so upset.  General is a Canadian company, been around for a long time and have good tools.  Now the Excalibur is back, and there are two other saws that use interchangeable parts for the Excalibur.  And of the three saws you probably own the best one.   Life is good! 
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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 11:34:50 PM »
i bet you'll do a little more research on saws before you "jump" into the next one. It takes $$$$ to cross the border, & their prices are different that ours. This is a a lesson of dollars & SENSE.
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Offline Norm Fengstad

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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 08:00:14 AM »
I think there is enough stink to go around to not only Canada, Taiwan, but to china and U.S, must include Mexico in the stink as well. I recently bought an article out of Minnesota for $180.00, shipping to me here in Canada was another $62.00 plus, This item like most things is made in China. Go figure. On the positive note its just a good topic to exercise our right to complain.

I made an 8 x 10 puzzle that fits inside a 10 x11 envelope for my neighbor to ship to Austrailia, Priority shipping was $60.00 and regular mail was over $20.00 the same article to ship inside Canada was $4.50 even $4.50 looks to me like a gouge job.

Have a good day my friends and don't let the stinky things spoil the day.


 

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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 12:03:36 PM »
I guess I look at it a little differently.  I mailed a picture to a friend in Australia this past year.  The picture cost little, I made it, the shipping was around $35.  I couldn't even deliver it to the next town from me myself for $35.  I thought I got a heck of a deal. 

And, Norm, if that item you purchased that was made in China, if it had been made in America you probably could not have afforded to buy it in the first place....  :D


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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 12:34:30 PM »
I was going to order some wheels for a project from a US company (I live in Alaska). The weight on the package was listed as 1.1lb. Priority Mail by USPS was 17.xx. I can ship to the lower 48 priority mail all day long for less than that, a medium flat rate box goes from here to Iowa for 13.60
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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 06:48:18 PM »
Eburk I use USPS priority mail but use my OWN box and I ship everywhere.  I can ship a 2 lb box to Singapore for around $22 USD or anywhere in the US for under generally $10.  My box, I weight and print the shipping label and then just drop it off at the post office.  Simple and convenient.  I used to use the USPS boxes but that costs way too much.



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Re: Something Stinks in Canada and Taiwan
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2017, 02:04:29 PM »
DW, I understand where you are coming from. Most companies ship USPS priority to Alaska. The point I was trying to make isone must be careful because many companies are not like you. Many companies shipping Fedex or UPS will "put a thumb" on the scale, like the old day butchers did 60 years ago. Fedex and UPS are weeding some of the blatant ones of these out by reweighing the package, and taking it back to the company to correct the weight and shipping costs. Other companies ship USPS Priority, but overcharge,like the company I spoke of yesterday.
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