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Title: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Gabby on November 19, 2011, 05:23:03 pm
Hi guys,
I'm in the process of transferring all the info from this old PC to the new laptop that has Windows 7,  64 bit VS 32 bit. I have Outlook express on the PC for my mail and I have several mail boxes that route through my ISP from our website I want to be able to send and receive from all of them but I'm not sure how to go about setting it all up. I'm thinking about contacting the ISP tech and have him walk me through it. Any suggestions? Windows 7 doesn't accept Outlook Express.
Gabby
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on November 19, 2011, 05:48:12 pm
yes, Win7 does not have outlook express or any other kind on board.
You could use Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org/en/thunderbird/), which is a pretty similar and free email-client.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: GrayBeard on November 19, 2011, 06:19:14 pm
Torsten is right...DUMP the Winders email client and go with Mozilla's Firebird....

Download and install it and THEN call the ISP tech for a 'walkthru'!

~~~GB~~~

~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Gabby on November 20, 2011, 05:00:18 am
Thanks guys I'll look into it.
Gabby
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: spiderman on November 28, 2011, 08:15:16 pm
Thanks guys I'll look into it.
Gabby


Wait don't get windows 7    but wait until windows 8 comes out.  it is in beta testing right now.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Gabby on November 30, 2011, 01:01:53 am
Too late Ghost, that's what the compuker came with. Remember it was a gift so I'll just have to learn and modify till it's right for me.
Gabby
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: BilltheDiver on December 01, 2011, 04:17:16 pm
I find that 7 works great.  Vista not so much.  There is always another system in beta.  If you prefer an email program like outlook express there are several such as Outlook in Office.  Personally I am not much of a fan of web based email. To each, his own!
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: grampa on December 03, 2011, 10:04:21 am
Hi Gabby, I have windows 7 and i use windows live mail that came pre installed with it, just open windows live mail click on accounts then add your diferent email clients, i have 3 and it works great......Paul
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on December 04, 2011, 04:49:13 am
With Win7 I have to use the mouse more and to click more - that's the only turn down I found so far.

And thinking about this table it's better to use Win7 than the upcoming Win8
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: GrayBeard on December 04, 2011, 12:51:32 pm
Torsten...as I remember Winows Me was not only bad it was HORRIBLE!!!

~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Russ C on December 05, 2011, 05:37:13 pm
Unfortunatly as an IT I have had to deal with them all, good or bad. ;)
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on December 06, 2011, 04:18:26 am
really? we don't.
We have decided to use Win7 64 bit. On ALL systems.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Russ C on December 06, 2011, 08:20:32 am
"I have had to deal with them all" I am talking about over the last twenty years. Started with DOS in the 80's and coaxial cable. Plus I worked part time for a company repairing PC's along with the IT work. Most of the IT work in the last ten years has been with Win-XP Pro 64 bit, slowly changing some to Win-7. From large to small worked on them all.  ;)
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on December 06, 2011, 08:25:57 am
uh, I don't miss the coax cable. Things have become much better since those days.

Nowadays I'm fighting my telephone cables at home, those are responsible for some cracking and knocking on the call  :-\ Harder to get that in line than the network  :D
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: ChuckD on December 08, 2011, 12:16:52 am
I'm still trying to figure out DOS. 
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Gabby on December 08, 2011, 03:19:25 am
I'm still trying to figure out DOS. 
I gave up on that a long time ago!

I'm wondering if there is a way to change back to an earlier format such as is in XP, the semitransparent setup in Win. 7 creates a lot of eye strain. I hate it. I also like to be able to go anywhere by clicking on the start menu as has been the norm forever, this libraries crap is altogether bumfuzzling to me. I'm used to being able to see the full tree when I open "My Computer" that is how I've always set up and stored my files. Is it just my ignorance of the new program or what? I was looking for where the old programs would ask you which start configuration you wanted the new one or the classic, never did find it.
I tried to open the messages setup and it asked for the ID number from the back of the machine, seems they screwed that up during the Referb. So I've downloaded Office 7 with Outlook I'm hoping that will be compatible with all my mail files and at least look familiar.
I still think if it isn't broke DON'T FIX IT!
Disgusted with "IMPROVEMENTS"  >:( >:( >:(
Gabby
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on December 08, 2011, 04:11:25 am
Gabby, try Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/). It has some XP effects inside, e.g. the start menu that you were used to. Works great.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: BilltheDiver on December 08, 2011, 08:47:48 am
If the machine ever had XP installed then it is compatible and you could always format the hard drive and install XP.  If it was made for Windows 7 it may still work, but you could have some hardware that might not be recognized by XP and they might not be compatible.  Give it a while.  7 is a good system.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: ChuckD on December 08, 2011, 10:40:21 pm
I'm with Gabby.  I don't like it.  But then I am not a computer whiz and very impatient when it comes to these TV With the typewriter attached.  I have a laptop with Win 7 beside my desktop with XP  and Firefox.  Wonder it I could put FF on the laptop?  That's a thought..
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: Gabby on December 09, 2011, 09:30:58 pm
If the machine ever had XP installed then it is compatible and you could always format the hard drive and install XP.  If it was made for Windows 7 it may still work, but you could have some hardware that might not be recognized by XP and they might not be compatible.  Give it a while.  7 is a good system.

Bill How would I know if it ever had XP installed? As far as I know it's a new re ferb and all I know is it has Win. 7 now.
Torsten would installing Classic Shell eliminate the see through pages and give me the start tree from the older programs? Or do I have to download something else? I don't want to load anything that will affect the operation of the new computer, I'm just not that savvy. All the cute acronyms leave me totally confused.
Gabby
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: kimb on December 09, 2011, 09:54:44 pm
Hey Gabby, if you don't like the see through feature you can turn it off. Go to My Computer(should have said Control Panal-oops), click on appearance and personalization, under personalization click on change window glass colors, then uncheck the little box for enable transparency. On your email you can use windows live in windows 7. It is basically the same as outlook. I set mine up in wndows live and it works the same way and looks about the same as outlook. Hope this helps.

Kim
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: ChuckD on December 10, 2011, 01:11:29 am
Thanks Kim, don't know about Gabby, but I will try thet.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on December 10, 2011, 08:30:09 am
Gabby, the classic shell will bring the old start menu back.
I never could find my peace with the new menus that MS offers since Vista. I want the old menu, that one was great to work with.

And try Kim's suggestion. You can't harm the computer, it will just change the look & fell a bit.
There will always be the option to bring it all back to the original style.

Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: ChuckD on December 10, 2011, 02:44:46 pm
I may be sneaking into Gabby's question but I have one after following the advise you all have given.  I added Classic Shell and it still looks the same.  Just what changes can I expect?  Thanks for your help.  I really need it..LOL
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: GrayBeard on December 10, 2011, 04:59:32 pm
Chuck...have you re-booted your computer after the changes?


~~~GB~~~
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: kimb on December 10, 2011, 06:49:41 pm
Hey Chuck, I messed up on my first post when I said go to my computer. I should have said control panal. Anyway I just tried mine to see what it would do. I went to control panal, clicked on personalization, scrolled down a little bit and found windows classic and I clicked on that and mine changed immediately. I clicked back on my theme I already had set and it changed back. I don't really know why yours doesn't change. Does yours have an apply button you need to press?

Kim
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: ChuckD on December 10, 2011, 07:21:27 pm
Thanks Guys, got it where I want it.  Appreciate your help.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: tux_linux on December 11, 2011, 06:17:00 am
Kim, that's another thingy. the classic shell is a tuning tool, which adds some little functionality.

see the Classic Shell gallery (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/gallery.html) for some info.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: spiderman on December 12, 2011, 12:25:27 am
I'm still trying to figure out DOS. 

There is a book call  MS-DOS for dummies at www.dummies.com  lots of other computer and software books.   

I also like Scott mueller's books.  enjoy.
Title: Re: Converting from XP to Win. 7
Post by: ChaplainRon on January 13, 2012, 02:10:16 pm
Reading this reminded me of logging into local bulletin boards with my Commodore 64 and a 300 baud modem..... Talk about slow....